Title update update

[IiI GUNNY IiI]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Yep, which is why I also said...

See how I covered both bases there? Because I see how you selectively chose to ignore that part.

what does that have to do with a GD thing.Heres the thing.We have been talking about this crap for TWO months ...there is one way to fix it .WHERE IS THE GD UPDATE>till this happens ANYTHING you say is mute.

[Rhah]

What does GD mean? Is that an abbreviation of God damn? Why not just write "God damn".. Surely its still blasphemous if you abbreviate it?

Anyway, getting pissed about the lack of update will make no difference.. its harsh on the 360 players that there isnt more news, but maybe the fact that no one is playing it on 360 has lead to Anton and Co concentrating on the PS3 version, as there are still a fair few players online?

[IiI GUNNY IiI]

Yes it stands for GOD DAMNed UPDATE,and if I post enough do I get the SR member thing or do I have to kiss something first..And does the position come with the knee pads of do I buy them myself.

[Rhah]

Nah, the knee pads you already have in your wardrobe will do just fine.....
And yeah, keep posting and you too could join the senior members club...

(Sorry, I meant the God damned senior members club.)

[IiI GUNNY IiI]

Originally Posted by Rhah

Nah, the knee pads you already have in your wardrobe will do just fine.....
And yeah, keep posting and you too could join the senior members club...

(Sorry, I meant the God damned senior members club.)

Good comeback You have my respect LOL...

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by IiI GUNNY IiI

what does that have to do with a GD thing.Heres the thing.We have been talking about this crap for TWO months ...there is one way to fix it .WHERE IS THE GD UPDATE>till this happens ANYTHING you say is mute.

It has to do with the fact that you could have saved yourself and ourselves a lot of moaning had you waitied to see if the game had any problems instead of buying it on release.

FYI, I think you mean "moot" - unless you meant to make a new oxymoron. I'm saying that, in my opinion, the game is good, patch or no patch - that makes it still my opinion irrespective of the patch.

[Panzergranate]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

It has to do with the fact that you could have saved yourself and ourselves a lot of moaning had you waitied to see if the game had any problems instead of buying it on release.

FYI, I think you mean "moot" - unless you meant to make a new oxymoron. I'm saying that, in my opinion, the game is good, patch or no patch - that makes it still my opinion irrespective of the patch.

So if one buys a new car and the gear box doesn't work in top gear then one shouldn't moan because all the other gears work fine??

Weird logic man.....

Generally folks do expect things to work 100% fine, as implied on the box, not 90% or 80% fine.

The problem with fixing the flight model errors on the consols is, I think, next to impossible, due to the attributes for each aircraft being taken from the DVD. On a PC the game is installed on a hard drive and an aircraft's individual attributes can be tampered with.

It is a shame that a few aircraft are un-useable because of this and is akin to buying a case of beer only to discover that a few bottles are stale.

Let's just enjoy the ones that are fine.

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

So if one buys a new car and the gear box doesn't work in top gear then one shouldn't moan because all the other gears work fine??

Weird logic man.....

It's only weird if you apply it to your not-very-applicable analogy instead of the case in point. Drawing an analogy between mild problems with a low cost item and a significant problem with a high cost item doesn't stack up.

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

Generally folks do expect things to work 100% fine, as implied on the box, not 90% or 80% fine.

And yet generally, they don't work fine. Games (and software in general) have always had and always will have bugs and design issues. For almost the first week of MW2's release I could count the days by the version number. In the grand scheme of things, BoP is not as broken as people make out. And over-dramatising it's problems certainly doesn't help an already small community gain any more support.

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

The problem with fixing the flight model errors on the consols is, I think, next to impossible, due to the attributes for each aircraft being taken from the DVD. On a PC the game is installed on a hard drive and an aircraft's individual attributes can be tampered with.

At least one (P51) is listed in the fixes, and entire maps have been patched on other games, so it is possible. It could be as simple as changing the code from Load ("E:\some_file") to Load ("C:\some_file").

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

It is a shame that a few aircraft are un-useable because of this and is akin to buying a case of beer only to discover that a few bottles are stale.

OK, lets use your analogy... You've bought a crate of forty beers, drunk half of them then found out that 2 are stale. Do you return the crate and spend the next 2 months moaning about it, or just drink the 38 good ones, remember the good times and chalk it up to experience?

Originally Posted by Panzergranate

Let's just enjoy the ones that are fine.

Some of us do, while others refuse to believe that is possible.

[The M00ps]

Just because I feel compelled to throw my 2 cents in, here's my list of what I consider to be undeniably broken:

1) the crash bug

2) planes at a distance are visible, then become invisible before they become visible again

3) no brakes for flight sticks

4) when switching to map view, plane flips over and spirals toward the ground (worse in single mission)


Things that really should be fixed, but are more subjective than the above:

1) persistent multiplayer lobby (why does any modern game not do this???)

2) forced cockpit view for multiplayer

3) flight models for P51, FW190

4) lack of bombsight view

5) horrendous dead zone for flight sticks (I understand this is a 360 issue, but I'm feeling bitchy)

6) ability to kick players from lobby

7) correct the 'no available servers' message

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by The M00ps

Just because I feel compelled to throw my 2 cents in, here's my list of what I consider to be undeniably broken:
(list)

I agree with this list, except for the map view part. This only happens in single missions because then you enable the AI for your plane, since you can switch to other planes/pilots through map view in some missions. Not sure why they'd spiral to the ground though .