Freetrack interface use in IL-2:CoD

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

if the poll had have been run with wording along the lines of;

Should games have provision for alternative headtracking - yes/ no?
Doesn't worry me either way

you may have received an even larger yes vote than the current one

if it had have been along the lines of;

Should FT (or any other headtracker) be included with capacity to sponge/ hack off TIR/ other - yes/ no?
Should FT (or any other headtracker) be included without capacity to sponge/ hack off TIR/ other - yes/ no
Don't care either way

the result would be different again but the intent of the poll would be clear and at all time, the "don't care" vote is neutral and not to be counted as for or against.

Freetrack can't "hack" TIR because Freetrack can't connect with TIR hardware.

It's another thing that I'm tired about, NP guy. Freetrack "hacks" nothing.

Be a little more MORAL, you and your company. I'm a litle bit sick that some NP customers can't see really how things works...

But NP troll, please, some words about BIS:ArmAII and Freetrack use! I love the way you run far away from this subject and keep runnig in circles! It's funny!

But you gather more than 20 votes for your cause! I'm alway amazed how people can chose the wrong side for illogical or limmited thinking! It's nice!

[Wolf_Rider]

lol @ LoBi...

I think you've got your threads mixed up... this one is on a poorly presented poll and besides which, who are you?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

lol @ LoBi...

I think you've got your threads mixed up... this one is on a poorly presented poll and besides which, who are you?

Don't run. Let's talk about BIS suport to Freetrack users. Don't want to talk about that?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by GOA_Potenz

Swiss can you stop arguing with everybody, cool for you that use trackir, but what's this crusade against it, there's no point on yours, so please stop being a pure bampot, and no more argument.

Can it be?, please.

Huh? You must confuse me with somebody, I was just playing with lobi.
(I have 2 FT devices, my pc is full of pirated software - I did post my own review of Tir, but again, see above.)

Originally Posted by vicinity

It is ill-suited in your opinion, and complaining about the poll doesn't actually address the question of whether FT support should be included.

Agreed. This poll doesn't change a thing either - actually here we have two guys arguing about whether FT's interface is legal not.

except i'm not the one whining

You was meant as "you among us/them", sorry.

i'm adding support for a feature I would like added to the game if it is not already in it.

I already addressed this point.
You should remind them to add joystick support...

But you gather more than 20 votes for your cause!

At least 10% voted for same reason like me - wreck your poll.

Why don't we discuss which options a new poll should have?

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by swiss

Why don't we discuss which options a new poll should have?

[SEE]

I tend to agree with Swiss regards the Voting options. Headtracking is gaining popularity and there are various systems available. From a Business and marketing perspective I would imagine that the 'Target Market' and 'share' between the various systems is what would be considered and the wether there would be an impact on sales if a particular segment of that 'market share' was unsupported.



If I were marketing a Global product I would establish what segment of the Target Market has, or intends to 'use', Headtracking and what systems they are currently using. May be only 10% use Headtracking and 2% have FT, 7% NP and 1% Other. On the other hand, the use of 'Headtracking' may account for 67% and FT is 35% of that - I haven't a clue and neither has anyone else on this forum. The simple truth, wether you like it or not, is that FT is well established as an 'alternative'. If there are large numbers of FT users in the Headtracking community, and the use of 'Headtracking' represent a significant section of that target market, could omitting support impact on sales?

My approach would be simple (and would apply to permanent Internet connection DRM if the details had not been made public) - place pre-order - send email to UBI asking for spec/HT support - no response or no support for FT/Other - buy 'appropriate' or 'Cancel Order' giving reasons for!

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by SEE

My approach would be simple (and would apply to permanent Internet connection DRM if the details had not been made public) - place pre-order - send email to UBI asking for spec/HT support - no response or no support for FT/Other - buy 'appropriate' or 'Cancel Order' giving reasons for!

Publisher would find themselves left wide open if that little (or other)requirement wasn't printed on the box, or announced by retail sales assistant at time of purchase... not because of the requirement but for not publishing the details...

In this case, sales wouldn't take that much of hit (I don't know if royalties apply, or how they would work for PC games but you'd be looking at $100 lost in royalties if it was a music album, based on numbers result here), if all refused.

need to keep in mind though, the problem isn't the alternative headtrackers, it the way some of those alternative trackers go about what they do.

[klem]

Another e-peening tour-de-force.

Its a simple question. If you don't care don't vote.

I have TIR, I don't care about FT, I don't vote. HT is a great idea. If I knew more about Freetrack (and I'm not going to waste my time finding out) I might think its a good idea or I mght think its a bad idea but that would be on technical grounds not some kind of emotional reaction.

As some people have said, why block something that doesn't concern you?

Hmmm maybe this post of mine is an emotional reaction to stupidity.

[Wolf_Rider]

don't care, so don't vote?
sorta skews the truer picture of what should be a survey poll though.... with non - compulsory voting, the gist of what you're saying happens anyway.

[norulz]

Besides ridiculously dodging the BIS subject, "NP PR" makes another mistake... by using just a single "user account" to constantly reply its nonsense... thus getting to a point where people reading the pages start to feel nausea about that... brand.

I mean... look at this thread... it's like a tennis court... NP guy trying to kick all the balls thrown at him that he think it might put the free versions of interfaces or software or even hardware in a bad light. But letting slip what it's "unpleasant" for NP to respond.

Question for NP.

Would NP consider to dump the production of consumer class cameras (TIR 4 and 5) due to the fact that multicores CPUs these days need only a tiny fraction of their power to calculate what "the chip" on their TIR cameras does?

NP could still sell the NP head clip or reflector and a more simple camera without the chip. Maybe including in the camera kit a small plastic (cheap) mechanism with which the user could quickly and conveniently switch the camera from a standard Webcam (with IR filter on and vis light filter off, maybe even some IR leds on for reflector use) to a IR only webcam (that has IR filter removed and normal light filter on).

Such camera and clip package could be sold around 40$ and given the fact that the software can be made in spare time (hey... look at the others...) would be much cheaper and better penetrate the market niche.

NP could still pretend that their interface is "better" and compete with the other market solutions...



Doesn't sound like a juicy business eh? I bet it doesn't...