FW190 FM Change

[swiss]

What is exactly you changed?

[pupo162]

so far i have only noticed the engine overheat changes. but thats general.

someone was saying that its top speed had been reduced.

[SturmKreator]

they nerfed a lot all of the 190 speed, for example, in 4.10.1(Still FM oleg)
the fw190d9 could reach 730 km/h at 5000-6000 meters, now only reach 670-680 m/h and the fw190d9late reach 695 km/h at 5500 meters.

I wasnt tested now, but with IL-2 compare 4.11 you know all the changes, at least expect with this nerf, they put the real acceleration, bnz characteristics, becouse now, the mustangs, p47 are overkill.

[Robo.]

This is a quote from the 4.11 guide:

Fw 190

''For the whole series handling and performance have been changed.
A new model has been made, a fully rated A-4. The derated model is now simulated by using the same engine with a limited throttle. (88 percent)

The A-5 and A-6 no longer have the erhöhte Notleistung. The A-5 1.65ata boost system onlyworks at low altitude now.

The D-9 1944 has been modelled to 1900hp version performance, the D-9 45 remains with the 2150hp MW50 injection performance.

The Ta 152 H-1 now has working GM-1 injection.''

Basically, the whole Fw 190 family has been re-done to match the characteristics of the real thing more precisely, also several mistakes have been fixed as described in the above paragraph. (e.g. versions with WEP)

I agree the information is rather vague but I believe that any 190 jockey will notice and appreciate these changes. This doesn't mean the plane is better now, it simply feels different by a margin. Best thing to do is go and give it a shot and check the loadouts, too.

[EAF331 Starfire]

I did a lot of testing in the A-4 and A-4 1.65 ATA (due to bug in the A-4 throttle max of 88%) yesterday and the changes are big!

First of all it does not feel so stiff in the control. In the 4.10.1 all the Fw190 feel very stiff in their controls.

The don't bleed energy like they use to.

Now you have a chance against a Spitfire Vb in a A-4.
In QMB a veteran Spitfire Mk. Vb (1942) I am consistenatly able to hold my own; I would say that survival are 70/30 to the 190A-4. This is new for me. The Spitfire IXc (1942) are a real challenge and survival feels like 40/60.
In the 4.10.1 you had to dispatch the Spit IXc in within the first pass in a 1vs1.

The Spit Vb still turn better but at a price. Engine overheat.

Landing in the Fw190A have become a challenge. It seems to be without drag and will not drop speed even with gear and flaps fully out.


BTW: EAF is an allied Sqd so this change is not welcome seen from an egotistic point of view. I must be a traitor since I love it

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by EAF331 Starfire

I did a lot of testing in the A-4 and A-4 1.65 ATA (due to bug in the A-4 throttle max of 88%) yesterday and the changes are big!

The 88% is not a bug, it's a feature as stated in the guide.

[schnorchel]

with such change(top speed has 30-40km/h decreasing at altitude regarding to compare data), LW cannnot fly on east front after 1943 anymore. no chance to deel with Las, yaks from altiude to bottom. at beginning bf109, now Fw190......., I am tired, I'd better focus on other things from now on.

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by schnorchel

with such change(top speed has 30-40km/h decreasing at altitude regarding to compare data), LW cannnot fly on east front after 1943 anymore. no chance to deel with Las, yaks from altiude to bottom. at beginning bf109, now Fw190......., I am tired, I'd better focus on other things from now on.

when I come back to my city I will provide some info from dietmar hartman book, Im sure TD have wrong data.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by schnorchel

with such change(top speed has 30-40km/h decreasing at altitude regarding to compare data), LW cannnot fly on east front after 1943 anymore. no chance to deel with Las, yaks from altiude to bottom. at beginning bf109, now Fw190.

This is not true. The 4.11 190A8 and 190D9 are just as fast or faster than the La7 at 5000 meters altitude and only 10km/hr slower at sea level. The Yak3 is 30km/hr slower than either at those altitudes and the 1944 109s are all faster than the Yak3 and the La7.

The first 4.11 plane I flew online was the FW190A8 and I did not have any problems landing it, it is much easier to land now than it was when Forgotten Battles first came out nine years ago!

The only thing I thought was sort of odd was that the 44' 190D9 does not seem to be faster than the A8 at 5000 meters where I thought that at high altitude it was supposed to be a little bit faster. But I am not a history major or the best test pilot out there.....

[Corsican Corsair]

Originally Posted by Robo.

The A-5 and A-6 no longer have the erhöhte Notleistung

In the real Fw 190 A-5/A-6 Flugzeug-Handbuch (december 43), the "erhöhte Notleistung" is used below 1 km flight altitude by Jabo with de-rated engine. Then the two option should be proposed...