Why so little interaction with the community?

[Over50]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.

Well, as an avid retail purchase IL2 supporter from the start it took 5 years of "development" after the last iteration of IL2 for CLoD to finally see the light of day, that upon release, was so flawed it crashed and burned on takeoff.

More than another year has now passed with even the last official patch of two more than a year old and now the developers tell the community all effort has been directed at a sequel in tandem with acknowledging CLoD is "not what we wanted it to be" BUT that there will only be one last patch for it.

Bottom line, the community faithful have waited more than 6 years for an admittedly too flawed game to fix only to be told the developers have moved on to a sequel to hopefully get a return on what financial resources they have left to produce it.

At my age I may not be here after another 6 to 7 year wait for a no-doubt multi-patched sequel that ultimately will, maybe, hopefully, be everything CloD isn't......

[Force10]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Oh I don't know take a guess....maybe his lead programmer came in, and said there has been a major setback in the stability patch, maybe their investors want to pull the pin, and he has to go and talk them into holding on, maybe he just likes p#ssing some of his customers off, so they won't buy the sequel. There are a hundred possible higher priorities than massaging the feelings of a few people in the forums who immediately take everything he says as a "Promise". I'm sure he couldn't post quick enough if something positive has happened. Until then we will have to wait.

Chivas, check this out:

"I apologize for not being able to come back and answer your questions, we are really at a crucial point in the patch that requires my full attention"

You know how long it took me to write that? 20 seconds. I don't care how busy you are, you can take 20 seconds out of your day to write something similar to at least give the illusion that your customers matter a tiny bit.

Very few things in life piss me off more than someone telling me they are going to be somewhere or do something, and then have them "flake" by not showing up or bothering to call and let you know. It's a major slap in the face.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Storm of When

Hopefully Jason will buy the franchise and we`ll get RoF style customer interaction, cos these lot are like Waldorf and Staedtler.

LOL. Highly amusing to see these ludicrous comparisons, especially when they're so far off the mark. Jason is probably happy that they can work without being overly worried about money. 1C could buy out Jason's little bunch by covering them with money and still have enough to spare to coat walls, ceilings and floors of their offices. And the outside of the building. If Maddox Games doesn't cut it they'll either be closed or reassigned to some other project. 1C won't be bothered, they've got a very broad portfolio.

[David198502]

clod is a row of broken promises....thats it.
there was no progress in the last 1,5 years at all in my view,....only a few steps backwards.the game doesnt look as good anymore as it did on release, many features where just taken out of the game, and some were made more arcade when they were realistically implemented before...
the game doesnt run faster at all on my pc...its the same like on day one.
they have cut out start up procedures, realistic compasses, clouds and their shadows,kill markings.....
they destroy things that already worked....
they introduced major bugs with every patch.....LOD problem,sound bugs,low textures....they all have yet to be solved again..

i could understand low progress, because they are a small team and have limited resources...(8years and 8milliion $)
but if they are that limited in resources, why the heck dont they work with the community at all?
i cant comprehend how they dare to post banjo music instead of getting in touch with us and work with us...there are so many talented people here.
...others are not so talented(me) but those at least send bug reports and play the game and know exactly the flaws, bugs and other problems of the game and post them here to be ignored.

fact is, that all the people here on this forum, are/were fans of the il2 series, expecting the best, trying to help to reach that goal....

if the devs would listen to the community/ their customers,...the game would be far better by now.
but obviously they just dont see the need for this for some dubious reason...
they dont even read the bugtracker, which again was a community effort, praised by Luthier.
then there were/are the lies....you can call it what you want, and find excuses for it, but at the end of the day all the promises turned out to be lies.

so all we can do is trust in them again and hope that we dont get an il-2 girl this time, but maybe working weather instead Luthier???if i want a hot girl on my lap, then i shut down my pc grab my girlfriend.
i dont need a pimp Luthier, but a working 109...and you failed in delivering both(the spit girl looks like crap)

if there only were competition you would be probably out of business already.

so i wont trust in you anymore until you restore faith....so this time give us all the broken promises or at least a happy end

[Osprey]

I echo you David, and I know you are hardcore. When your best customers have had enough then you have bigger problems - and this is all months or years away from 'the Sequel".

<Russian Bond accent>"Wait for big announcement at show"</Russian Bond accent>

When was that again? June?

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Don't you find that sim just a bit to easy?

Not at the moment because I've not actually flown online much lately. I'm dying a lot because I've forgotten what to do - it's different to COD. I suppose, as an RAF pilot on COD, that it is really easy because there is more historical accuracy in the aircraft FMs, so Luftwaffe does not dominate.

Originally Posted by Baron

The easiest ac in old IL2, i would say, is the P-47, by far.

FW190, especially the D9 44.

[Continu0]

Well, do we get news today? It seems to be friday again...?

[Varrattu]

Originally Posted by David198502

clod is a row of broken promises....thats it.

When the game launched and people complained about the lack of available information for each aircraft Luthier said more detailed info would be released in the future but there has been no word on that since...

Regards Varrattu

[Storm of When]

Originally Posted by csThor

LOL. Highly amusing to see these ludicrous comparisons, especially when they're so far off the mark. Jason is probably happy that they can work without being overly worried about money. 1C could buy out Jason's little bunch by covering them with money and still have enough to spare to coat walls, ceilings and floors of their offices. And the outside of the building. If Maddox Games doesn't cut it they'll either be closed or reassigned to some other project. 1C won't be bothered, they've got a very broad portfolio.

I never said it involved Jason buying out 1C who I know are a massive set up, I meant if perhaps he could acquire the IL2 franchise from Maddox games, I didn`t think it would be necessary to spell it out in full but I guess the finer points of the English language may not be obvious to the non English.

We suspect Jason either wouldn`t or couldn`t anyway, but if you want a fine example of how a dev involves himself with the community then Jason is a prime case, wow he even goes and answers questions on the forum, his team fixed a dog of a game and his set up continues to release 300+mb patches on a regular basis and thanks the purchasers for supporting his efforts.

So to put it in an easy to understand way, Maddox Games (if it`s still called that) could learn a lot from how the RoF team support and approach their community, if the reader is so blind that they deny thats fact then I`m obviously pissing in the wind.

[csThor]

I've read that far too often, I can no longer muster anything but sarcasm to that remark. Sorry.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Force10

Chivas, check this out:

"I apologize for not being able to come back and answer your questions, we are really at a crucial point in the patch that requires my full attention"

You know how long it took me to write that? 20 seconds. I don't care how busy you are, you can take 20 seconds out of your day to write something similar to at least give the illusion that your customers matter a tiny bit.

Very few things in life piss me off more than someone telling me they are going to be somewhere or do something, and then have them "flake" by not showing up or bothering to call and let you know. It's a major slap in the face.

I know everything is so easy, I can't understand why there would be a problem, but there obviously is a problem. Maybe its a problem they'd just as soon not talk about. I suppose they could lie, as they're constantly accused of that anyway. I'm quite sure there are reasonable explanations for their actions, as the conspiracy theories around here make no sense, nor is it a case of them just not liking us enough to call.