For 1946 & Oleg Fans

[Soviet Ace]

It seems nowadays, and I'm sure some game companies will say and actually have said. That the gaming world on PC is dying. I being one of them, am a bit disappointed that PC games are going out, but what game companies should really be trying to do, is make the console games what they were on PC. I know, that BoP was not made to the limits of what the 360 or PS3 are capable of, and if it was. It probably would have been a lot better than Il-2: 1946, but it's all just economics now. No one is making games anymore, just for fun. Money rules in the Capitalist world, and even in the Gaming world.

I still like BoP, and will continue to play. But I don't think it was made to its full potential of a console game.

[lazyboy_se]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

It seems nowadays, and I'm sure some game companies will say and actually have said. That the gaming world on PC is dying. I being one of them, am a bit disappointed that PC games are going out, but what game companies should really be trying to do, is make the console games what they were on PC. I know, that BoP was not made to the limits of what the 360 or PS3 are capable of, and if it was. It probably would have been a lot better than Il-2: 1946, but it's all just economics now. No one is making games anymore, just for fun. Money rules in the Capitalist world, and even in the Gaming world.

I still like BoP, and will continue to play. But I don't think it was made to its full potential of a console game.

For visuals I think it's pretty close to the limit of consols. Multiplayer should be able to increase to at least to 24-32 players. The way multiplayer is set up of course can be improved. Replays/recordings of games would be possible, but not as easy as on PC. Skins on planes won't be possible because the size of them for multiplayer.

[lazyboy_se]

Not remotely close? Come on...You have valid arguments and perhaps ve just value different things in the game. For example I don't think belly landings and take offs are sutch a big deal. I wouldn't mind it though.

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

It seems nowadays, and I'm sure some game companies will say and actually have said. That the gaming world on PC is dying. I being one of them, am a bit disappointed that PC games are going out, but what game companies should really be trying to do, is make the console games what they were on PC. I know, that BoP was not made to the limits of what the 360 or PS3 are capable of, and if it was. It probably would have been a lot better than Il-2: 1946, but it's all just economics now. No one is making games anymore, just for fun. Money rules in the Capitalist world, and even in the Gaming world.

I still like BoP, and will continue to play. But I don't think it was made to its full potential of a console game.

Damn good point, if console gaming kills PC gaming, then for f's sake, don't force us to play dumbed down crap designed for ADHD, mountain dew slurping, crack-monkey teenagers.

I would be a terrible shame if the flight sim experience Oleg brought to PC gamers died out - even in the face of increased processing power to deliver a richer experince.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by lazyboy_se

For visuals I think it's pretty close to the limit of consols. Multiplayer should be able to increase to at least to 24-32 players. The way multiplayer is set up of course can be improved. Replays/recordings of games would be possible, but not as easy as on PC. Skins on planes won't be possible because the size of them for multiplayer.

Visuals I don't have a problem with. But having the ability to land and belly land etc. shouldn't automatically make your plane explode. Even when you flip, you shouldn't explode. Unless your seriously screwed plane flyability wise, then the possibility of blowing up increases since your leaking oil and other fluids (). But like fuzzychicken said, you should have the ability to restart your engine. Just having the little things, and helpful things are nice in 1946, but in BoP, there aren't many of them around to go for.

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Damn good point, if console gaming kills PC gaming, then for f's sake, don't force us to play dumbed down crap designed for ADHD, mountain dew slurping, crack-monkey teenagers.

I would be a terrible shame if the flight sim experience Oleg brought to PC gamers died out - even in the face of increased processing power to deliver a richer experince.

I read an article on I think it was Gamespot that said PC games were losing money, and Console games even though not as good for Simulators, were becoming the main stream. Like we didn't already know this. But I agree, the PC companies that have began making games for consoles, shouldn't dumb it down. They should keep doing what they're doing with the PC, and incorporate that into their console games.

[Desode]

Is this game missing somethings that we all wish where in there ? Yes it is, Does that alone make it not worth buying , In my opinion Hell NO ! The dev's along with Anton have been very good to this community, they have answered our questions and assured us that lots of the things that we want are on the way.
It still amazes me that some of my fellow pc gamers are such spoiled and whinny little children.
Its the same kind of people that blow a gasket in Bf2 when their "uncapturable base" gets hit ! It really cracks me up. Nothing is ever good enough, and instead of supporting a great game that could help out the sim scene and draw more people in to help a dying breed of games, you just attack it because it doesn't have everything you want it to have.

I'll never understand some of you people. As for the author of this thread, thanks for you time in writting your review. I'm sure you wouldn't have taken the time to write your opinion if you didn't care about what is trying to be done here. I hope that you will find some friends on here and give the game a second chance, and try to enjoy it some. Its not the pc version of Il2 and it never was meant to be that, however it is the BEST WWII Sim ever brought to console. There is lots of fun to be had and yes you are going to have to put in some time and learn to play this Il2 different then the pc version. I know for me that is part of the fun, and I get to meet new people and have some great new Dogfights along the way.
DESODE

[Houndstone Hawk]

You make some good points Desode. Being a console gamer before PC & if I had a choice to sit up at a pc desk for the evening, or from the comfort of the living room & a 42" screen, I know which basket I'd put my eggs in.
I felt I needed to merely express my disappointments after reading everything in the couple years that led up to release; I was so looking forward to a console-based IL-2 experience. The selling point was always about the game appealling to a Sim fan aswell as the arcade guys. I guess I took replays, take-offs, flyby cameras, cockpits, flight stick playability, cheat-proof MP's for granted in this title because of its illustrious lineage.
I'd like to think of my opinions as more than that of a whining child, especially after having spent so much money on good console games in the past & even shelling out on both 360 & PS3 versions of this game.
I agree with your points all the same & I guess we should all back an attempt to help a "dying breed" of sim games; it's just an expensive way of doing it; buying a title for 40 quid & waiting til they get it right with BoP2; another £40.

[juz1]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Damn good point, if console gaming kills PC gaming, then for f's sake, don't force us to play dumbed down crap designed for ADHD, mountain dew slurping, crack-monkey teenagers.

I.

lolz-all the knuckle draggers will be on MW2

unfortunately such untermensch make up the majority of the paying prole public...they fund the development of more unteresting stuff...bit like Good Directors making pape sh!te in order to fund their own pet projects...unfortunately the lure of the big buck somehow makes some of them forget themselves (e.g. Roberto Rodriguez)
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[LaRock O no Lie]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

It seems nowadays, and I'm sure some game companies will say and actually have said. That the gaming world on PC is dying. I being one of them, am a bit disappointed that PC games are going out, but what game companies should really be trying to do, is make the console games what they were on PC. I know, that BoP was not made to the limits of what the 360 or PS3 are capable of, and if it was. It probably would have been a lot better than Il-2: 1946, but it's all just economics now. No one is making games anymore, just for fun. Money rules in the Capitalist world, and even in the Gaming world.

I still like BoP, and will continue to play. But I don't think it was made to its full potential of a console game.

I have 1946 on PC, its by far the best WW2 flight sim on PC... I also have flight sim x, and the MS combat flight sim 3... I was very happy when I heard they were releasing Il-2 for the consoles...

AS for expectations... This is the first ever true Flight sim on consoles that I know about... i am sure they had others back in the day with poopy graphis no cockpits etc. For being the first entry of a series this game ROCKS!!!! I am sad that MS will not allow my Saitek x-45 to work on the 360, but oh well, I found a ace edge bundle on ebay and after 4 tries at different bundles I got one for 113 shipped ( which is fine by me, since it comes with a game, and its exactly like the x-45 as far as I know.

It is unfortunate that Oleg and the other programmers of this game had to bend to the publisher's wishes... If you know anything about publishers all they care about is money and profit margins. They are not going to allow the dev to "waste time" making every single plane 100% realistic in a first ever release... NO ONE will invest that much into an unproven franchise on a new platform..... with that said, give it some time. Hopefully they will allow custonizing the controls, and or ala forza 2 with the MS wireless wheel allow tweaking of the Deadzone in game..

I love this game right now... I am waiting on doing realistic and sim modes tillI get my ace edge... i think the biggest gripe I have right now is the air starts on all the missions.... I loved 1946's missions where you had to take off, and fly to target. But hey 49.99 with a free T-shirt rocks!!! I basically paid 5$ for the game if you take into account the T-shirt and me trading in 3 games I never played anymore.

only other gripe I have so far is the AI planes. My wingman took a full 6 minutes to down a bomber from 300 ft dead lvl directly behind it... he was firing his guns for the full 6 mins. REALLY? even on arcade I get pwned if I do that on a a bomber. Oh wait one more thing... I hate the auto bailout feature.... and the timer if you chose to continue the mission... seriously... I ended up crash landing a perfectly good plane on arcade mode because they gave me 8 minutes to RTB after I chose to continue... basically had to do wep non stop and got to the base with 1 minute to spare and I still had to line up my approach... nothing like doing a hammerhead stall just to try to land because the timer was running down!

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by LaRock O no Lie

I have 1946 on PC, its by far the best WW2 flight sim on PC... I also have flight sim x, and the MS combat flight sim 3... I was very happy when I heard they were releasing Il-2 for the consoles...

AS for expectations... This is the first ever true Flight sim on consoles that I know about... i am sure they had others back in the day with poopy graphis no cockpits etc. For being the first entry of a series this game ROCKS!!!! I am sad that MS will not allow my Saitek x-45 to work on the 360, but oh well, I found a ace edge bundle on ebay and after 4 tries at different bundles I got one for 113 shipped ( which is fine by me, since it comes with a game, and its exactly like the x-45 as far as I know.

It is unfortunate that Oleg and the other programmers of this game had to bend to the publisher's wishes... If you know anything about publishers all they care about is money and profit margins. They are not going to allow the dev to "waste time" making every single plane 100$ realistic in a first ever release... NO ONE will invest that much into an unproven franchise on a new platform..... with that said, give it some time. Hopefully they will allow custonizing the controls, and or ala forza 2 with the MS wireless wheel allow tweaking of the Deadzone in game..

I love this game right now... I am waiting on doing realistic and sim modes tillI get my ace edge... i think the biggest gripe I have right now is the air starts on all the missions.... I loved 1946's missions where you had to take off, and fly to target. But hey 49.99 with a free T-shirt rocks!!! I basically paid 5$ for the game if you take into account the T-shirt and me trading in 3 games I never played anymore.

only other gripe I have so far is the AI planes. My wingman took a full 6 minutes to down a bomber from 300 ft dead lvl directly behind it... he was firing his guns for the full 6 mins. REALLY? even on arcade I get pwned if I do that on a a bomber. Oh wait one more thing... I hate the auto bailout feature.... and the timer if you chose to continue the mission... seriously... I ended up crash landing a perfectly good plane on arcade mode because they gave me 8 minutes to RTB after I chose to continue... basically had to do wep non stop and got to the base with 1 minute to spare and I still had to line up my approach... nothing like doing a hammerhead stall just to try to land because the timer was running down!

Totally agree.