No clickable cockpit! Are they for real.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

For my taste I really prefer the ROF community to this one: those players are focused on the application's real target: being a WW1 combat simulator.

I'm always been against clickable cockpits: it's good for FSX, is not for a combat sim... Even if it's a toggleable feature, as you can still manage the plane by keys, it's a loss of time and resources on something that's it's not really important.

Like the 3d modelling of cows, sheeps and chessboards.

Now 777 is taking the big part in this new project: it's like a dream to me.

+1 But wait man, NO COCKPIT DAMAGE!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING!! lol just kidding mate, Im with you, it is something that honestly I can do without.

[xpzorg]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

For my taste I really prefer the ROF community to this one: those players are focused on the application's real target: being a WW1 combat simulator.

I'm always been against clickable cockpits: it's good for FSX, is not for a combat sim... Even if it's a toggleable feature, as you can still manage the plane by keys, it's a loss of time and resources on something that's it's not really important.

Like the 3d modelling of cows, sheeps and chessboards.

Now 777 is taking the big part in this new project: it's like a dream to me.

Because you might no flied in bombers.
I really disappointed about that future

[Slipstream2012]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

For my taste I really prefer the ROF community to this one: those players are focused on the application's real target: being a WW1 combat simulator.

I like this community better because they are dogs.
On the most part they have been with the IL-2 scene for years, they know this game inside out, and there are many talented individuals here who will take their own time to test and document their findings to improve the sim.
Yes, they bitch, moan, fight each other, troll, but the majority do it because they want an accurate simulation and not just an arcade game.

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

I'm always been against clickable cockpits: it's good for FSX, is not for a combat sim... Even if it's a toggleable feature, as you can still manage the plane by keys, it's a loss of time and resources on something that's it's not really important.

Like the 3d modelling of cows, sheeps and chessboards.

Now 777 is taking the big part in this new project: it's like a dream to me.

How can clickable cockpits be good for FSX, but not a combat sim, when they are ultimately, both simulations.

Why would I want to have to set up 1000's of keys, which I'll forget, when I could interact with the cockpit "simulating" what the pilots actually did & learning a little about how a particular aircraft operated.

Talking of loss of resources you probably mean scarfs, pistols, headbands etc..

Its funny how IL2 Clod had all of it and more and never lost resources, just got sold out by 1c.

[raaaid]

i really dont like clickable cocpits because i use mouse view but i often think hey with clickables i could pilot a 109 for real which would be good if i was raaaiding the lost ark

[planespotter]

Oleg once posted comment once that they did a survey and only 3 percent of IL2 flyers wanted clickable cockpit as a 'must have'.

Who cares?

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by planespotter

Oleg once posted comment once that they did a survey and only 3 percent of IL2 flyers wanted clickable cockpit as a 'must have'.

Who cares?

Well yes, I can believe such a result if worded that way...how bout if worded differently by Mr. Maddox, "would you like to be able to bind keys to cockpit functions"...results may have been different ...even I dislike the mouse

[TX-EcoDragon]

Fuuuuuu**#$&#*%

I guess it's CloD and DCS....or maybe the communities will get their heads on straight and realize that those of you that want to press E to start will have that option no matter what. You have everything mapped to your HOTAS and wanna use it that way? Great, I'm not gonna come along and tell you "Nope, sorry, you are out of luck" but many Combat gamers will post in these sorts of polls (and apparently they outnumber the high fidelity sim fans when it comes to the forum visitors anyway) and don't mind making their voices heard, even at the expense of the rest of the community. It's a shame.

[VMF214_Jupp]

~S~ All,

What I can say, coming from the perspective of a "heavy user" of several sim-flight products over the fourteen years since I first installed MS's CFS is that I'd much prefer having clickable cockpits available than not.

One thing I've mentioned to several of my "veteran friends" is that clickable cockpits is perhaps the only thing missing from IL-2 1946 to make it a "near perfect flight simulator".

You see, back in the day we could import civilian General Aviation aircraft into CFS and hands on fiddle about with all kinds of avionics, thus learning about all kinds of things...

Coming from that background, as many, many of us do, not having the ability for that level of interaction between human, device, computer, and program is a shortcoming for all future flight simulator products if they do not have it included.

I believe that a "hard core realism niche" will not be satisfied with an arcadey, graphically superior, insanely accurate yet automated flight model, with uber intelligent ai game that has forgotten that the real magic is in the end-user experience of being fun, educational, and visceral at the same time.

There are simulators, there are games, and now hybrid simulator-games...

Just because it has an airplane, doesn't make it a f@*&1ng simulator. Period.

This I hope leads to a revival of a pure simulation over the internet cash cow scheme given enough time.

[ATAG_Doc]

Dude they don't know HOW to do it. That's just it. They don't know. What you will be offered if RoF with 1940's planes. That's it. Nothing else.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

Dude they don't know HOW to do it. That's just it. They don't know. What you will be offered if RoF with 1940's planes. That's it. Nothing else.

I think that you may be right there Doctor, unless of course a new engine is developed.