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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:00 PM
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The fact that you can fly though trees breaks all the realism and makes me think wtf they went to all this trouble to make everything look nice but they didnt think to sort out the trees and it just kills low lvl dogfights for me. were my bandit didnt make it out from a dive and he clipped the tree isnt there like it is in ROF. And also like a bomber thats engine is out has to make an emergency landing in a random patch of clear ground were he might crash in to trees and could die isnt there.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:26 PM
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Whoever thinks CoD needs to be saved by 777 or anybody else needs to wake up.

RoF was done, toast, capute but Jason Williams (777) was able to purchase the rights and turn it around through some clever marketing and hands on approach (nice job Jason).

Why was RoF almost done? A horribly buggy release that had forums filled with trolls trying everything they could to bring the sim down and they almost succeeded....No wait, they did succeed, essentially bankrupt and under attack from the very community it tried to serve(sound familiar), the original team sold Rise of Flight to 777.

Some even speculated that the attacks were coordinated and designed to fell the burgeoning sim and I am starting to wonder the same about some here in this very forum under the guise of daily constructive criticism as if they are helping us by saying the same thing over and over.

777s takeover was not an instant fix either as the sim still produced launcher crashes for all every 20 minutes or so for the first year and a half

Yet in between the bugs and crashes 777 rereleased RoF in what was called the Iron Cross Edition and in retrospect is now considered a good move.

I tire of people comparing CoD to sims released 3-10 years ago using these mature software comparisons to scare new pilots away from an already small CoD community with blanket statements that more often than not, tell more about their system configuration or limitations than about the experience as a ww2 cfs pilot in CoD.

The funny thing is some of the CoD bashers have very little (if any) flight time and many I have never seen flying the sim.
I dont want 777 to take over, though in the future a ww2 by them would be very interesting.
My point is if you look at the last patch by both parties...

COD

A second beta patch released that is by all accounts still buggy and problematic, introduced new bugs, released without a readme or a word from Luthier, since then no feedback or help with the new bugs or any word on when they will be fixed.
Luthier has had no contact with his customers, no posts for a long time now and has practicality vanished.
His last post was on the 13th of April.

ROF

A very good patch which added more content, graphic improvements, a whole new weapon system and a very good readme, and no bugs.

Jason spends time answering posts and spends 18 hours flying his own product online with his customers.

As i said "light years apart".
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:50 PM
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Some even speculated that the attacks were coordinated and designed to fell the burgeoning sim and I am starting to wonder the same about some here in this very forum under the guise of daily constructive criticism as if they are helping us by saying the same thing over and over.
In the marketing era where we live you can expect things like that every days, and as small is a niche more fierce the competition is.

If someone thinks that there no community-managers from the competence browsing this forum then is because he is very naive.

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Old 07-02-2012, 06:35 PM
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Whoever thinks CoD needs to be saved by 777 or anybody else needs to wake up.

RoF was done, toast, capute but Jason Williams (777) was able to purchase the rights and turn it around through some clever marketing and hands on approach (nice job Jason).

Why was RoF almost done? A horribly buggy release that had forums filled with trolls trying everything they could to bring the sim down and they almost succeeded....No wait, they did succeed, essentially bankrupt and under attack from the very community it tried to serve(sound familiar), the original team sold Rise of Flight to 777.

Some even speculated that the attacks were coordinated and designed to fell the burgeoning sim and I am starting to wonder the same about some here in this very forum under the guise of daily constructive criticism as if they are helping us by saying the same thing over and over.

777s takeover was not an instant fix either as the sim still produced launcher crashes for all every 20 minutes or so for the first year and a half

Yet in between the bugs and crashes 777 rereleased RoF in what was called the Iron Cross Edition and in retrospect is now considered a good move.

I tire of people comparing CoD to sims released 3-10 years ago using these mature software comparisons to scare new pilots away from an already small CoD community with blanket statements that more often than not, tell more about their system configuration or limitations than about the experience as a ww2 cfs pilot in CoD.

The funny thing is some of the CoD bashers have very little (if any) flight time and many I have never seen flying the sim.
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Borris, like a U Boat in the night, I think you just sank their battleship.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:55 PM
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