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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-21-2012, 08:49 PM
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Are You kiding? 3000 views not viewers. Think the first.
Is it possible than one viewer check this subject 10-15 times and recive plus 15 views...? No comments.
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:51 PM
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When only 300 people vote in a total of 2629 views, there is definitely something wrong with the poll. You need maybe 10-20 minutes to google and read the most introductory theory on statistics to realize that such a poll is not representative of public opinion within this forum alone, much less the entire community.

Also, out of those 300 people that voted, i saw quite a few saying that "i voted no DX9 only because i don't use it and there is no other option in the poll". Which means that even among those 300, not all are totally against it.

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Exactly why I didn't vote myself.

"No I do not and I don`t think it should be supported at this stage anymore"

Yes to the first bit. Indifferent to the second - happy to leave it to the devs as they're probably best placed to judge. But don't like having words placed in my mouth so left it alone.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:33 PM
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I didn't vote because the decision to support DX9 is for the devs to make. They consider it both worthwhile and necessary and I accept that. As someone with XP and Win7 on my HD I will be interested to see how well the title performs on both OS's.

I was originally on XP when CloD was first released and upgraded because it was generally stated that CloD ran better on Win7 with DX10. If it had worked on XP I am not sure I would have upgraded as CloD is the only title I have on my Win 7/64 partition.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:37 PM
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1) DX9 is in the system requirements, we have to support it.
2) DX9 is very important for our next project, we want to make it a popular game, what will work on maximum variants of PC. Now we are fixing and testing DX9 on CloD engine.
3) The sample of votes from the forum is not representative
Will there be an update tomorrow? Not an update to an update
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:49 PM
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So clearly ask for a patch mate ! as for update it is already known : "We're working hard.. blabla... Great improvements... blabla...".
Do not ask for an update that doesn't inform you more than the last 6 months... save time, nerves...
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:29 PM
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1) DX9 is in the system requirements, we have to support it.
2) DX9 is very important for our next project, we want to make it a popular game, what will work on maximum variants of PC. Now we are fixing and testing DX9 on CloD engine.
3) The sample of votes from the forum is not representative
Thank you for that B6! honestly. I hope everybody reads that line over and over and over again so they will finally understand that the few hundred hardcore simming madmen in this insane asylum (forum) are NOT representative of the broader customer base, past future or present.
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We have an overwhelming majority of customers (please check the recent poll) here who think DirectX9 should not interfere or delay regular and much needed patching. Some people think this feature should not be supported at all as it is outdated! Why developers are not considering customer whishes and requirements?
First: An online forum with a limited participation in some thread a random user opened is by no means any more important than the notorious bag of rice falling over somewhere in China.

Second: Your posting style comes across as aggressive, smacks of way too much (falsely) self-appointed importance and makes false claims of speaking for "the community" to boot. Little wonder that people either ignore you, laugh about you or feel irritated. If you stopped posting as if you had any say (which you don't, you don't speak for anyone but yourself) and dropped the drama in your texts you might actually be taken seriously.

Three: You come across like a petulant child who didn't get the sweets he wanted and is now throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Well, here's news for you: If you want to be seen as an adult, then post like an adult.

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Old 06-21-2012, 02:24 PM
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You have to remember only 1-5% of the people who purchase this sim actually check out the forums. We are the HARDCORE fans. We all have super fast computers and lots of cool joysticks because we are the hardcore simmers.

But what about the other 95% who buy this sim, fly it offline, and never touch the forums? Or all the XP users in Russia who this sim is primarily aimed for since 1C is a Russian company? IL2 series is HUGE over there. You can't alienate them.

If they designed this sim just for the couple hundred of people like us who lurk on these forums we wouldn't even have these forums since this project would of long been dead most likely.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:27 PM
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You have to remember only 1-5% of the people who purchase this sim actually check out the forums. We are the HARDCORE fans. We all have super fast computers and lots of cool joysticks because we are the hardcore simmers.

But what about the other 95% who buy this sim, fly it offline, and never touch the forums? Or all the XP users in Russia who this sim is primarily aimed for since 1C is a Russian company? IL2 series is HUGE over there. You can't alienate them.

If they designed this sim just for the couple hundred of people like us who lurk on these forums we wouldn't even have these forums since this project would of long been dead most likely.
I can see your point,... fair comment!
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:25 PM
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First: An online forum with a limited participation in some thread a random user opened is by no means any more important than the notorious bag of rice falling over somewhere in China.

Second: Your posting style comes across as aggressive, smacks of way too much (falsely) self-appointed importance and makes false claims of speaking for "the community" to boot. Little wonder that people either ignore you, laugh about you or feel irritated. If you stopped posting as if you had any say (which you don't, you don't speak for anyone but yourself) and dropped the drama in your texts you might actually be taken seriously.

Three: You come across like a petulant child who didn't get the sweets he wanted and is now throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Well, here's news for you: If you want to be seen as an adult, then post like an adult.

You certainly have plenty of time to write all this long essays of stupid criticism! Just look at the facts and figures, what we have paid for, what has been prommised and what has been delivered so far! I am stunned by the bullshit in your " wise and adult like post"!
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