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Old 06-05-2012, 02:17 PM
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Stormbirds nowhere specify that the 'entire' wing was swept to correct for CoG.
Actually they do..

Allow me..

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Originally Posted by STORMBIRDS
While it is true (as some writers seem intent on repeating loudly and often) that the Me 262s swept wing design was due to the need to adjust the center of gravity for the aircraft
Note STORMBIRDS said the 'swept wing design'..

Note the word WING and the lack of distinguishing between INNER WING and OUTER WING..

Based on that one can only conclude they were referring to the WHOLE WING DESIGN..

Also note, in reading that statement by STORMBIRDS one can notice that they are a bit annoyed by those who point out this FACT..

Where STORMBIRDS says 'as some writers seem intent on repeating loudly and often'.

Which tells me if there was any proof to indicate any part of the wing was swept with the intent of taking advantage of swept wing theory..

STORMBIRDS would have said so right than and there.

Also note STORMBIRDS goes on to say the following..

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Originally Posted by STORMBIRDS
It is also true that design aesthetics by the design team, irrespective of any initial misgivings about practicality, influenced the wing shape of the 262.
Note STORMBIRDS said 'design aesthetics'..

That being the design approach of 'if it looks right it should fly right'..

As was the case for many designs in WWII!

And if asked I think 9 out of 10 people would agree that the Me262 looks better (aesthetics) with the inner wings swept to match the outer wings.

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Nowhere on their webpage do they go into detail about the 262's development.
Actually they do..

And in some cases in great detail!

For example when the re-drew the original Me262 blue prints and preformed some computer analysis they discovered quite a few things that needed fixing. For example the landing gear design was changed, among other things.

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There's nothing I disagree with Stormbirds.
Well as I noted, only a fool would!

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You however just interpret what they say in the way your faith wants it to be - not the way they say it.
So let me see if I understand you correctly..

Your saying I am ADDING/SUBTRACTING words to/from the STORMBIRDS statements?

I will have to disagree with you there!

In that as I showed above..

I just take them at their word!

As in when they say 'wing design' I 'interpret' that to mean the 'whole wing'..

Where as you on the other hand are the one that has to ADD words to what they said to make your dream come true!

For example your the one that claims the 'inner' wing was swept to take advantage of swept wing theory..

Yet STORMBIRDS says nothing of the sort!

About the only thing that STORMBIRDS said that could be attributed to the reason the inner wing was swept is when STORMBIRDS noted the Me262 swept wing design was also affected by the design aesthetics

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Nor do you look at any other resource.
There you are wrong again!

There are many sources out there that state the 'reason' the wings of the Me262 were swept to correct the cg!

And not just web sites or wiki links!

But books written by people who teach aerospace classes

I just forgo posting all those other sources here because I consider STORMBIRDS to be the..

How did you say it?

'CONFIRMED AUTHORITIES' on the subject of the Me262!

As in no need for any other sources.. Unless you know of another group that reviewed all the available Me262 data prior to building reproductions of the Me262 that were so good that Messerschmitt provided them continuation serial numbers.
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That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on.

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