The unfortunate turth

Originally Posted by carguy_

Coming from a person of your attitude, it is a compliment, thank you.


Last time I read there was a vocal minority here that wanted the patch, even the alpha version of it. They got it allright. They found another reasons to complain too.


TBH I don`t remember when was the last time I saw such a mess too. But I`m not acting as if it was the end of the world. My advice if you can`t wrap your head around that would be : don`t.


And if this sim ever makes something it was meant to be from the start, you will be thanking those who provided bug reports and constructive critics to help. Because I have yet to understand why you insist on staying here and complaining instead of doing something better with your time.



It would be good if you provided some examples of that.


Comparing collapse of finance sector to a video game development. Nice one. Why don`t you just stick to the "buying a new car" analogy since you repeated it so many times that you have to get it right eventually.

I will react only to your last reply...

I am not comparing collapse of finance sector and video game dev... I am comparing state of denial of FEW people here, who act on behalf of devs and whole community (cuz "dectractors" are not part of community) and put themselves in the position to judge whats good and whats wrong (for this game, combat sim world, video game industry etc...).

Beta patch is alpha patch. What devs really wanted from their customers - enjoy their game by playing it or to become their alphatesters?

Now all of you play "IL2: AT" game, where AT means ALPHA TESTING... Enjoy it, if you have nothing better to do...

P.S. Don't be angry, because people are fed up with Luthier making them fools once again...

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Last time I read there was a vocal minority here that wanted the patch, even the alpha version of it. They got it allright. They found another reasons to complain too.
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They have found many reasons to complain because they have been told week in and week out what has supposed to of been fixed in terms of bugs. Just before the release of the patch Blacksix, reported a small list of bugs that still remained. However, we still got exited just to read that the FPS had double for most Pc's and that the CTD had almost been eliminated. Now all of a sudden we find we are beta/alpha testers again because the Devs have handed use a patch that hasn't really fixed the CTD, or doubled Fps. Please don't tell me it's because of a vocal minority they released the patch when it was only the other week that Blacksix said they wouldn't release a patch until it did what it said on the tin. They have released it because they realize now they need more testers to find the bugs, it's nothing to do with anyone demanding the patch. Maybe they should have released it sooner and they would have had the bug report quicker if anything.

Many weeks of thinking this is getting fixed and that is getting fix, judging by the reports coming out. Then we find out these things are the same and even worse for many when the patch finally arrives. I wonder why people moan I really do.

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Roger that which leads me to belive it has more to do with thier PC than CoD

Isn't that what everyone was told when they first released this game? I don't think that washes anymore with anyone.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

Isn't that what everyone was told when they first released this game? I don't think that washes anymore with anyone.

It washes just fine.. Because if it was a bug in CoD that caused the errors 'SOME' are seeing then 'EVERYONE' would be experancing the same problems. But not 'EVERYONE' is experancing the same problems, therefore there is some 'SPECIFIC' about those peooples PCs that in conjunction with CoD is causing the problem! That is why the devs decided to release this alpha/beta patch to get feedback (logs and dump files) from those people who are having problems in the hopes that they can change something in CoD to account for those issues those PCs are having

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

It washes just fine.. Because if it was a bug in CoD that caused the errors 'SOME' are seeing then 'EVERYONE' would be experancing the same problems. But not 'EVERYONE' is experancing the same problems, therefore there is some 'SPECIFIC' about those peooples PCs that in conjunction with CoD is causing the problem! That is why the devs decided to release this alpha/beta patch to get feedback (logs and dump files) from those people who are having problems in the hopes that they can change something in CoD to account for those issues those PCs are having

I never read anywhere where the Devs said they were releasing it for these reasons. Infact just last week I saw a post from Blacksix that stated they wouldn't release a patch until it did what it was supposed to do which in this case was double the FPS.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I never read anywhere where the Devs said they were releasing it for these reasons. Infact just last week I saw a post from Blacksix that stated they wouldn't release a patch until it did what it was supposed to do which in this case was double the FPS.

Can you point me to this post? I thought that the patch was supposed to fix mainly the CTDs, the particles murdering the fps, micro freezes and some other graphical artifacts (ie the horizon bug). At the same time there have been information posted that fps has gone up. But where you read that the patch raises fps by 50% I don`t know. Maybe you need to reread the release notes. So far it states :

Most recommended-spec machine will see a roughly double average FPS and a significant reduction in the micro-freezes that had previously plagued the game.

which is IMO an estimation and certainly not a promise for a alpha patch. I`d be also more careful about judging everything posted by users on this since some even are having problems with applying the alpha files or do not know if they are really experiencing a different game version.

[PotNoodles]

@carguy - You already saw it here>>

>>Most recommended-spec machine will see a roughly double average FPS and a significant reduction in the micro-freezes that had previously plagued the game.<<

Most Pc's? Well my system is much more then the recommended spec and I don't see it. My FPS is more or less the same as it's always been with micro-freezes. But I know people will say it's my Pc and that I'm in the 1% of computers that it's not working for. I really want this game to work as much as anyone else and can only hope the final patch brings some good news.

[Wolf_Rider]

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Originally Posted by PotNoodles

I never read anywhere where the Devs said they were releasing it for these reasons.

Originally Posted by BlackSix

The main purpose of the alpha is to find and squash any remaining or new bugs, especially crash bugs. The most common of the infamous launcher crashes have been fixed, but a few very hard to catch bugs remain. On average, a full day of flying causes about 0.8 crashes, and our internal testing has not yet provided the crash logs needed to zero in on the issue.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

It washes just fine.. Because if it was a bug in CoD that caused the errors 'SOME' are seeing then 'EVERYONE' would be experancing the same problems. But not 'EVERYONE' is experancing the same problems, therefore there is some 'SPECIFIC' about those peooples PCs that in conjunction with CoD is causing the problem! That is why the devs decided to release this alpha/beta patch to get feedback (logs and dump files) from those people who are having problems in the hopes that they can change something in CoD to account for those issues those PCs are having

lol, oh and its 'experiencing'

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

lol, oh and its 'experiencing'

Now that's definitely ultra cheap to attack somebody on his or her mastery of the very complicated and not very consistant spelling of the English language particularly if this person is not a native speaker. Very cheap indeed.