Democracy 101 (are we brainwashed automats?)

[Cap'n Crunch]

Don't really care too much for Chomsky, has too many skeletons in his own closet like adoration for Pol Pot and his wonderful utopia. And the idea of a superior 20% to manage seems a chronic plague, you see it everywhere, since Plato and beyond. Never works, always ends in implosion, there is no difference in humans, simply an excuse to rob and plunder. Besides it's a little bit too 'Reptilian' like in scope. If you accept the thesis, your already a slave.

I'd rather listen to Alan Watt, he's my kind of dissident, maybe a little crazy, but definitely a thinker. You can find his stuff on utube.

But yeah, in the modern world of true believers in social darwinism, if your a thinker, you truly are on your own. Eventually with peak resources they will cull their competitors. You see it now, anyone whom they cannot directly control culturally is ruthlessly destroyed. Whether it's a primitive Amazonian tribe, or the Afghan hill people.

[chantaje]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

With internet and social networking its now technically feasible to have a true democracy (rather than representational democracy) with citizens voting personally on everything. Would YOU bother spending several hours every day at a computer voting on policy questions ?

i would do it with entusiasm , im sure i can represent my interest way better than any "professional politician". and it would be a great way to learn new things.
at leasty here (im sure in any country is similar) most of the senate aproove projects without even reading it, only becouse the head of the party or block order that have to be voted, many of those laws are ridiculous (http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=106291) , and the ones that must analyze them dont even read it..

im sure in the us its not so diferent. i dont think the trillions of the bailouts can be approved by a election, (well, with a all mighty media lobbyng for it it can be possible)

[MadBlaster]

Chomsky is a sharp guy. His model, too high level, too simple. Sir, no faith in the individual? In my experience, the individual doesn’t live at the high level he speaks. Instead, Chomsky reduces him collectively to either a teacher or a dumbass? Wtf. I would argue, the individual has the freedom to turn the tv/propaganda “off”. The individual has the freedom to ignore the propaganda or persue his/her own agenda or enjoy the propaganda of the “masses” as a pastime, hobby or even promote it with pleasure. The individual has the freedom to move, to buy or not to buy, to agree, or tell the world to go to hell. Or, the individual can sit around all day and worry if the sun will rise tomorrow because of the unmitigated disaster, Obama, spending some x-trillion dollars of future generations money in three years and more than all other presidents combined in the nations history! I do not wake up each day and ask myself, am I an 80% percent or 20% or 99%? Instead, I read a book on compiler theory. This, Chomsky’s greater contribution to my world. The USA will survive because nothing is more important than freedom, even when your broke. And we know from history, the individual will die to save it. Common sense always takes hold eventually. I would say, don’t waste your time on someone elses agenda unless you choose to and ask yourself why you do it. I think most people do that, though not explicitly. More so, just natural human behaviors. Chomsky’s model... is it propaganda??? Or is Chomsky himself a victim of propaganda??? Could be. Life is too short for me to worry about that. He is a sharp guy though and I found the vid worthy of my time to write some of my own propaganda on the internet.