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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-31-2012, 11:29 PM
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Robtek said:

Oh, not at all, Ben.

>>As i've spent over 500 hours in CoD and had my fun, i still can't look into the heads of other non-lamenting posters here.<<

You may want to re-phrase this.

>>Be it as it may, it is definitely better, imo, of course, to enjoy what one has and having the hope that it gets better, then craving for something and sling mud on it because ones dreams aren't fulfilled.<<

But surely better than either just to tell it it how it is, surely, and what needs fixing? Just how rose-tinted do you have to be?

>>Defending the mud-slingers as rightful critics is even more pathetic, <<

It depends on the criticism (and the mud-slinging). The devs didn't directly acknowledge the obvious problems for a long time, then only glancingly, then under duress. And then they dont like doing it, and get petulant. A bit liek the savid supporters, in fact. In fact, very much liek the avid supporters.

>>still imo, because all bugs and errors have been reported a long time ago and the devs are working to remove them.<<

And what of the much abally-hooed dynamic weather and campaign? And why are are being gicven (very low quality) pics of the sequel? (already!). Still, it beats the banjo...just....

>>But all this has been posted quite a few times and still some people do believe that slinging mud on something they are craving for earns them more then pity and a few answering lines in a forum. <<

So you say, adding to it. And adopting a more conciliatory tone when it suits you.

I still think the devs need a better idea of the enormity of the omissions and glaring faults, and a farbetter sense of priority (or the publishers do, or whatever). More targetted criticism is needed, not less. And to do this means cutting throug the tripe of critic-baiting, of which you are as guilty as several others. Whethe rit's rose-tinted optimism, forgetfulness, or plain servility, or just the good old sprt of critic-baiting...none of it matters. What matters is the game is delivered remotely as promised. perhaps just a sense of accountability. Very ho-hum pics of a sequel at this stage? Really?

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Old 04-01-2012, 12:47 AM
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Either way, not a good move.
That is your opinion and your welcome to it.. Just know that I don't agree with you.
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Old 04-01-2012, 01:29 AM
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Be it as it may, it is definitely better, imo, of course, to enjoy what one has and having the hope that it gets better,
then craving for something and sling mud on it because ones dreams aren't fulfilled.
I think you are confusing "dreams aren't fulfilled" with "a functioning product". But yes, my dream of a functioning product was not fulfilled. I guess the fact you have spent 500 hours on the game and countless more here at the forums speaks volumes. I am an adult with kids and "big person" responsibilities, so I don't have the time to try and "make a sim" with the FMB or completely lower my definition of "playable" to make me feel better about my purchase such as you have. The fact the devs are completely rebuilding the gfx engine is enough for most folks to realize that the first engine was wrongfully pushed on to us, for full price no less.

I'm glad you can enjoy using your imagination to where you have AI that is serviceable, radio commands, etc. and fill in all the other gaping holes in game. Most of us don't take up residence in fantasyland however, so we are stuck here in reality. There is some comic relief however from the faithful folks that just "can't believe" that everyone can't use there imaginations as they do, and imagine it was worth $50.

Keep em' coming Ace and robtek, laughter is the best medicine at this point so I look forward to your next attack on people and their lack of imagination.

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Old 04-01-2012, 04:18 AM
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This is a sad, sad thread.

It does nothing to advance the completeion of the sim to the level we all want it to be at.

It reminds me of the guy who hits himself in the head with a hammer because it feels so good when he stops doing it, only you guys never stop beating each other's heads in.

I know for a fact that many of you are well ovet 40 years old, and are intelligent, responsible adults.

Why act like 14 year old playground ruffians in here?

Why?
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:25 AM
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Can someone explain what "IL-2 in the real engine" means please. Thx
screenshots of CoD with the updated engine i suppose, and not from BoM

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never mind... are from the sequel...
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:52 AM
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Probably in Russia they have 4 weeks holiday over easter so that'll add more time
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Old 03-30-2012, 11:37 AM
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I don't expect a patch this Friday, or next Friday, or the one after that or that or that etc................
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I don't expect a patch this Friday, or next Friday, or the one after that or that or that etc................
Well I guess it's only been 5 months since the last patch we had and a year since the games release..so don't be greedy.

Still we have pretty pictures of the expansion which help....in some sort of way.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:01 PM
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I don't expect a patch this Friday, or next Friday, or the one after that or that or that etc................
That's a very sensible way of thinking, if you never expect it you will:

1) keep your sanity
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Old 03-30-2012, 01:04 PM
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Easter is important for orthodox religion and sure will be holidays. Also expect some time off when the Great Patriotic War celebration comes too etc. But these guys can use time off too like everyone of us.
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