Inaccurate performance data for BOB fighters in COD comparing to RL data

[Blakduk]

The evidence keeps mounting up that 100 octane was used throughout fighter command by May 1940.
The case has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt: any jury would have come to that conclusion over 60 pages ago in this thread and any number of other threads in this forum and others.
I joined this debate many months ago with an open mind and have been convinced by the evidence presented and have not seen anything that makes me doubt that conclusion. Until such time as fresh evidence is put forward that any fighter command aircraft were using 87 octane fuel during the Battle of Britain I suggest this thread is closed lest newcomers to the debate stumble upon it and heed the opinion of the tiny minority and believe the matter is being seriously questioned.
When future questions are raised regarding this matter referral can be made back to this thread where all the evidence resides- especially for the developers who seem to have acceded to the minority view that 100 octane was not used routinely in fighter command until late in the BoB.

The only reason this poor excuse for a debate continues is due to a small number of posters who are determined to have the last word and their intransigence in the face of all the evidence. As the old saying goes 'There are none so blind as those that refuse to see'.

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by NZtyphoon

24 out of 36 operational bases were provided with 100 Octane fuel in December 1939, a ratio of 2 to 1.

So its now not even May 1940, not even February 1940, its December 1939 already! That is at least as funny as Glider's dreaming up that there were no two-speed propeller units in BoB!

But of course, you can dream up almost anything and nobody will care.

Far more realistic than 24 out of "60 odd" stations.

No. Its a pipedream as usual, by the same person who stole Morgan and Shacklady's work and published it under his own name on his site, but here tried to discredit them, and now quotes a wiki article as 'proof', the same one he was editing himself. His only source for his pipedreams is his own editing of wikipedia

How much lower can one get I wonder...?

[lane]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

The "approved stations" are given in the referenced letter No. F.C. 15447/76/E.Q.2:
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Hi 41Sqn_Banks,

Those 7th December 1939 and 9th December 1939 directives list the stations requiring 100 octane fuel since they had or were expected to have in the near future Merlin engined aircraft. Non operational stations in Fighter command were also required to hold certain quantities of 100 octane.

The squadrons equipped with Hurricanes during December 1939 are as follows: 3, 17, 32, 43, 46, 56, 79, 111, 151, 213, 501, 504, 605.

During December 1939 these Hurricane Squadrons were stationed as follows.
3 – Croydon,
17 – Debden
32 – Biggin Hill
43 – Acklington
46 – Digby
56 – Martlesham Heath
79 – Manston
111 – Drem
151 – North Weald
213 – Wittering
501 – Tangmere
504 – Debden
605 – Tangmere

All these operational stations were listed on the 7th December 1939 or 9th December 1939 as requiring 100 octane fuel, therefore it was Fighter Command's clear intention that these Hurricane squadrons would convert to 100 octane fuel.

The Squadrons equipped with Spitfires in December 1939 are as follows: 19, 41, 54, 65, 66, 72, 74, 152, 602, 603, 609, 610, 611, 616.

During December 1939 these Spitfire Squadrons were stationed as follows:
19 - Duxford
41 - Catterick
54 - Hornchurch
65 - Northholt
66 - Duxford
72 - Drem
74 - Rochford
152 - Acklington
602 - Grangemouth
603 - Turnhouse
609 - Drem
610 - Wittering
611 - Digby
616 – Leconfield

Rochford is the only base not listed on the 7th December 1939 or 9th December 1939 directives, however, 74 Operations Record Book indicates that they had 100 octane while at Rochford in March 1940.

Other units participating in the Battle of Britain that converted to Hurricane, Spitfire or Defiant after December 1939 and the station where they converted are as follows:

64 – Church Fenton
92 – Croyden
145 – Croyden
222 – Duxford
229 – Digby
232 – Sumburgh
234 – Leconfield
242 – Church Fenton
245 – Leconfield
253 – Manston
257 – Hendon
263 – Drem
266 – Sutton Bridge
302 – Leconfield
310 – Duxford
312 – Duxford
601 – Tangmere

Sumburgh is the only base not listed in the 7th December 1939 and 9th December 1939 100 octane Fuel - Issue of directives to receive 100 octane fuel. 232 formed there in July 1940.

Therefore it can be readily seen that the operational stations at which the 100 octane fuel was required were all those stations that held operational Hurricane, Spitfire and Defiant squadrons.

Those units based in France during December 1939 were 1, 73, 85, 87 & 607 in Hurricane and 615 in Gladiator. We know from Post 372 that all these France based Hurricane squadrons were using 100 octane by May 1940.

This listing accounts for the 50 merlin engined Spitfire, Hurricane & Defiant squadrons that fought in the Battle of Britain.