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Old 03-05-2012, 12:17 PM
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well outlaw so you belive i did study thermo, check this out:

http://energy.sdsu.edu/testhome/Test...C/TSatR12.html

the vapur pressure differnce bewteen top and bottom with a gradient of five degrees its 100 kpa

this means the wheel can work with 10 m diametrum on a 5 º gradient

how much work is that for kg of r12?

1*10*10=100 J

whats the internal energy difference for 5 º
around 5 J/kg

U variation=Q-W
5=Q-100

Q=105

eficiency=w/q=100/105=95% eficiency

negelcting a ten percent of mechanical lost it gives the 85% figure matching the claimed author eficiency

if it filtered to the wiki is cause things are changing due to the 2012 effect of next leap of evolution
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:02 PM
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well outlaw so you belive i did study thermo, check this out:

http://energy.sdsu.edu/testhome/Test...C/TSatR12.html

the vapur pressure differnce bewteen top and bottom with a gradient of five degrees its 100 kpa

this means the wheel can work with 10 m diametrum on a 5 º gradient

how much work is that for kg of r12?

1*10*10=100 J

whats the internal energy difference for 5 º
around 5 J/kg

U variation=Q-W
5=Q-100

Q=105

eficiency=w/q=100/105=95% eficiency

negelcting a ten percent of mechanical lost it gives the 85% figure matching the claimed author eficiency

if it filtered to the wiki is cause things are changing due to the 2012 effect of next leap of evolution
Lmao where did you study thermodynamics? Chumpsville by any chance lol
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:05 PM
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so whats wrong?

well i saw it:

whats the internal energy difference for 5 º
around 2000 J/kg

U variation=Q-W
2000=Q-100

Q=2100

eficiency=w/q=100/2100=4.7% eficiency

eficiency for carnot?

1-cold focus/hot focus=1.3%
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:16 PM
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I have studied thermofluids albeit very briefly but I can tell that your figures just come our of thin air.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:21 PM
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If you were to work it out you would require a hell of a lot more equations and all the assumptions you made...

It should look more like this

http://www.borderschess.org/MintoWhe...tionUpdate.pdf
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well outlaw so you belive i did study thermo...
No I don't. In fact, I specifically noted "imaginary" thermodynamic classes.

It's obvious you didn't study because, according to your subject line, you spent FIVE YEARS doing so. If everything you have said about your education is true you should have 5 or 6 degrees by now. You don't have any. And no, English philology or whatever the hell it is you claim can't possibly be a degree program. If it is, it's in the same class as a degree in stained glass or Russian studies - ie, useless).

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Old 03-06-2012, 11:45 AM
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yeah well the subject lasted 1 year but i repeated 4 times since it was very tuff

are you afraid of someone you look down on having same or more preparation than you?

tell me whats wrong in this then:


the vapur pressure differnce bewteen top and bottom with a gradient of five degrees its 100 kpa

this means the wheel can work with 10 m diametrum on a 5 º gradient

how much work is that for kg of r12?

1*10*10=100 J

whats the internal energy difference for 5 º WITH R12

http://energy.sdsu.edu/testhome/Test...C/TSatR12.html
around 2000 J/kg in the best case

around 5000 j/kg in the worst case


U variation=Q-W
2000=Q-100


Q=2100


eficiency=w/q=100/2100=4.7% eficiency
in the worst case: 100/5100=2%

maximum eficiency for carnot?


1-cold focus/hot focus=1.3%
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:55 AM
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Because it just is not that simple you may have studied it 5 times but you clearly still haven't learnt it, I suggest you try again.

Yes we can at least agree thermodynamics is a tough topic but then that goes on to prove that your primary school calculations are nowhere near the complexity required to work out thermodynamic engine efficiency... If you had studied it then you would admit that at least wtf...
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:04 PM
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yeah thats the typical thing:

in the end they confuse you so much that you say yeah all righ i dont understand it but i accept it since someone smarter saw it

if my calculations are primary school it wont be difficult to tell where theyre wrong

edit(its funny you say mine is not valid cause its simple you want something you cant undertand)

for example in college it woundlnt be tolerated i dint calculate the title of liquid vs vapour

well i didnt need i got a maximum and a minimum , eficiency must be between

yet the minimum of it is above carnots eficiency

shouldn i belive myself

should i belive others above myself cause i admit im dumb and theyre smart

no way educational system is mind control brainwashing into truning people into sheep

thats like i have a degree in nautics and other in english

yeah right so they castrated the parts of my mind that have to deal with that i better keep to art a virgin part of my mind that hasnt been told yet how things are and what i must paint or sculpt
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:50 PM
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yeah well the subject lasted 1 year but i repeated 4 times since it was very tuff
1 year? That's 2 full semesters of thermo. Do you seriously expect us to believe that it takes 2 semesters of thermodynamics to get a "nautics" degree?

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tell me whats wrong in this then:...
I never looked at any of your calculations nor have I disputed any of them. There's no need to look at them because the results of your calcs. are meaningless The problem you are complaining about does not exist. Nothing you have mentioned has EVER been suppressed. It's simply not worth suppressing.

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