Friday Update, February 10, 2012

[Robo.]

Originally Posted by Varrattu

By the way: the BF109E-iL2CoD is fitted with a 1200 PS machine.

True, we've got the Aa version in game.

British document states following numbers (quoted as German sources) - mph at SL:

Bf109 283 (465kph)
Hurricane I 246
Hurricane II 268
Spitfire I 282

Not sure how accurate and helpful they are as no information about engine version / MFP and rpm is provided other than corrected BHP at FT height which is 950 for the 601, 965 for Merlin III and 1075 for Merlin XX.

Sounds about right for A-1 at SL, 1.35ata at 2400 rpm though.

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

I measured 460-470 near SL - as noted, it should be 500..

I did test with the E3 and could reach 470 kph "on the deck". It really should be faster than SpitIa. And it isnt, in the game. So, you was right.

[Kwiatek]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

I did test with the E3 and could reach 470 kph "on the deck". It really should be faster than SpitIa. And it isnt, in the game. So, you was right.

Both should be able to do ab. 500 km/h at the deck, RL Spitfire MK1 at 12 lbs (100 Octan) reached 500-505 km/h at the deck

[Dano]

The cost is irrelevant, what is relevant is that excepting the Russian's, we all knew the state it was in upon release and yet still chose to purchase it. If you did no research into it's condition then more fool you. The anger displayed here is absolutely typical of people who will not accept any responsibility for their own actions and thus are always looking off load the blame onto somebody or something else.

Either the money is worth something to you in which case you damn well should have checked the condition of it before purchase or it's not worth anything to you in which case you're not whining. It's not like the issues started appearing days or weeks after launch, they were immediate and well publicised.

No one forced you into your purchase.

[klem]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

even the spitfireperformance.com says BF109E should do around 560 max at level

http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html

IAS and TAS almost the same at sea level.

@Kurfurst - I will test the Emils top level speed tonight and will post results here.....I doubt its only 470 kmh

I've not really studied the 109 very much but I am confused. This isn't meant to be a provocative post, I'm just wondering what it is we are supposed to have in CoD.

Where in that Spitfire Performance chart does it say the 109 does 560kph at S.L. (350 mph) and which 109 variant?
I see:-
BF109E Hochste Waagerechte geschwindingkeit, Flugzeughandbuchn 16 December 1939: 287mph/459kph
Bf109-E1 Nr 1774, 1.3ata, Bayerische Flugzeugwerk, 26.4.38: 302mph/483kph
Bf109-E3 Nr 1792, 1.3kg/cm2, Messprotocoll vom 16.2.39, Mtt A.G. Augsburg:290mph/464kph

500kph according to the Kurfurst site text is the E-3 (Spitfire performance gives the E-3 as 290mph/464kph). The Blatt 6 for E-3 actually shows a corrected 487kph after the test result of 485 using an underperforming engine. The Swiss result for the E-3 is around 470kph and the Kurfurst site uses the assumption that the appropriate supercharger gear was not used to suggest that the result was lower than it should be. The French result shows approximately 487 at ~250m.

My only point is that the specific E model/Engine/Propeller etc should be clear along with the most important question - just which 109E-1 and 109E-3 configurations is CoD supposed to be giving us?