Friday Update - December 9, 2011

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by Richie

So do we know what the next theater will be? Russia or the Mediterranean?

next to CloD, Battle of Moskow. Next to BoM, no info.

[Bonkin]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

for anyone struggling with basic comprehension and having some kind of aneurysm as a result - sequel means add-on. think il2 forgotten battles, with pacific fighters, with aces expansion, with 1946. it's all the same game, just large chunks of content that are added on. it's not a separate game, it's not abandonment of cliffs of dover, it's additions to the core game which will benefit the core game as well as expanding the theatres available.

Sequel does not mean add-on. It could be an add-on but it's not certain. Certainly it's what I think we all hope for. For reference Cpt_Farrel asked the question and BS himself said he didn't know:

Originally Posted by Cpt_Farrel

Regarding the changes that will come with the sequel, will Cliffs of Dover benefit from them too, like IL-2 and Pacific Fighters?

Other than that I think its good to get the feedback but I'm extremely disappointed by the lack of dynamic weather, i.e. having to wait for the sequel.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

This is no better than EA's fiasco with the BF3-PS3 promise, which they reneged on. This community isn't big enough, but I hope someone has the balls/money to take these guys to court over this.

What possible good do you actually see coming from such a course of action?

[Dano]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Hopefully the same thing that happened with EA, forced to actually give the product they promised.

There's a world of difference in forcing EA to give an already complete product to forcing 1C to finish all that was slated for Cliffs of Dover.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

For the record, it's VVS which comes from the Russian Военно-Воздушные Силы which transliterated is Voenno-Voszdushnye Sily

Yea sorry I was typing from memory and I dont care much for the Russians

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as the launcher crash you misunderstood Luthier's answer, he said what I said. The "overall feature" is the new gfx engine in which the launcher.exe bug is "simply not present".

However it is fixed.... I just see everyone pushing for dynamic weather and FM's/DM's... If we cant multiplay for more than 30 mins or so we might as well not play at all...

Originally Posted by Insuber

As far as the Battle of Moscow, it was code named Operation Typhoon by the German army. It was concentrated in the Moscow district, West from Moscow. Barbarossa was the blitz invasion of Russia, few months before.

cheers,
Insuber

Thats a shame, I just thought as there was no battle for Moscow because the German advance fell 30km(?) short it would really be about the advance before hand... A Smolensk map would have made a great campaign map... Bf109 vs Yak 1's, I16's and Miggs...

[Dano]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

But there are laws at least in my country about bait and switch. Asking someone to pay for a different product which contains the something they advertised in a current product, is deceptive and illegal. Wonder if the maybe 35 guys that post regularly in this forum would count as "class-action" or not, lol.

What exactly is missing that was promised? Actually promised and not just discussed. And again, what possible good do you actually see it doing other than forcing the premature end of sims from Luthier and 1C or are you actually that short sighted that you think they have a fully working sim at the office just waiting for somebody to take legal action against them before release?

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

But there are laws at least in my country about bait and switch. Asking someone to pay for a different product which contains the something they advertised in a current product, is deceptive and illegal. Wonder if the maybe 35 guys that post regularly in this forum would count as "class-action" or not, lol.

First of all you would have to have a case..

Which there isn't, since CoD contains everything that is advertised

And by advertised I mean everything listed in hard cover adds, official Internet sites (1C/UBI), and the side of the box..

And for those who may be a little confused.. Something Oleg talked about doing two or three years ago in an online interview does NOT count as advertisement official or otherwise.

Perfect example being 'dynamic weather' Oleg said in an interview a good year to year and a half before CoD was release that CoD would have dynamic weather. Prior to release 1C said they were not able to get dynamic weather in. And just to be crystal clear, 1C nor UBI stated dynamic weather was included in CoD

Thus no case can be made, thus no class action lawsuit

Its that simple