Will we get an update today?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

or 6, we could accept the humble apology from Luthier and team for selling us a dud, and be happy that the community manager at least corresponds with us on a daily or weekly basis reassuring us that our points/concerns and bug reports or being listened to and that work is being done to fix them, maybe even giving us a little taster of things to come. This very simplistic action would take a lot of heat out of the forums, sadly it seems that it is beyond them.

We've had an apology of sorts from Luthier stating we have every right to be pissed at the condition of the sim.

What do you expect the developers to say on a daily or weekly basis. Things simply don't get done that quickly. They have far more pressing priorities than baby sitting us as daily. A monthly status report would be much more informative. Atleast then they would have had time to actually get something done.

Originally Posted by Chivas

You've had an apology of sorts from Luthier stating we have every right to pissed at the condition of the sim.

What do you expect the developers to say on a daily or weekly basis. Things simply don't get done that quickly. They have far more pressing priorities than baby sitting us as daily. A monthly status report would be much more informative. Atleast then they would have time to actually get something done.

A monthly status is simply not good enough IMHO, in real terms as many things have been fixed as have been broken, there's no indication that bug reports are even being acknowleged let alone being worked on, im sorry this is a very poor service from a company that have already got our cash. Luthier, this is not good enough.

This whole senario is just one big RICHARD THE THIRD!!!

[merlin1]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

or 6, we could accept the humble apology from Luthier and team for selling us a dud, and be happy that the community manager at least corresponds with us on a daily or weekly basis reassuring us that our points/concerns and bug reports or being listened to and that work is being done to fix them, maybe even giving us a little taster of things to come. This very simplistic action would take a lot of heat out of the forums, sadly it seems that it is beyond them.

Tree

I agree, with most of your comments. But Luthier several times said, that the customers have a right to be angry. For me this is enough. I mean apology. Some time ago I was said that Clod will not be fully ready for some time and probably will shine in all its glory around Christmas this year.

The fact is, that the Clod released one Year too soon.

Patience fellas.

rgr.

[addman]

Originally Posted by merlin1

Tree

I agree, with most of your comments. But Luthier several times said, that the customers have a right to be angry. For me this is enough. I mean apology. Some time ago I was said that Clod will not be fully ready for some time and probably will shine in all its glory around Christmas this year.

The fact is, that the Clod released one Year too soon.

Patience fellas.

rgr.

+1 I have faced the facts, moved on to better things until they fix this dud of a game. Lots and lots of great games out there, a little unfortunate though if one only likes WWII air combat simulators. Oh! look at that! 1,352 people are currently playing Wings of Prey through Steam, WoP are in the top 50 of most played games on Steam at the moment. Maybe they also -like me- bought it for 3,75€ on the summer sale.

[furbs]

right now...
1,352 playing WOP
35 playing COD

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Chivas

By now we should have realized the game isn't finished and won't be finished for some time. Heckling the developer isn't going to finish the sim any sooner. Yes you could be very pissed the community wasn't made aware just how unfinished the sim was, but that would have killed the sim just as effectively as the publisher dropping funding. I also agree that the publisher could have stated it was going to be a paid beta, but I doubt that would have garnered enough funds to continue development.

We have multiple choices..
1. We can help the developer as much as we can with beta testing and constructive criticism
2. We can enjoy the features that are in the sim until others features are added or fixed
3. We can buy the sim and move on to other things and hope our monetary support will make a difference
4. We can wait a few years for another developer
5. We can spam the forums with vindictive negativity that can only drive away prospective customers, so we can tell everyone we told you so in an empty forum.

Chivas, #1 is fine but it would be nice to know that the bug reports are being used. What I would really like to see from luthier is a list of recognised bugs that can be built on by the community. At the moment there is a lot of repetition simply because no-one knows whether the devs are listening.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by jimbop

Chivas, #1 is fine but it would be nice to know that the bug reports are being used. What I would really like to see from luthier is a list of recognised bugs that can be built on by the community. At the moment there is a lot of repetition simply because no-one knows whether the devs are listening.

I'm sure the developers are well aware of all the problems, and quickly peruse the forums for problems people are having, but at the moment there are probably far to many problems to be fixed to have to time to respond. When things settle down to a more managable list they will have more time to address the issues in the forums. If they weren't they wouldn't bother making the betas available to the public a week before the steam release.

[furbs]

Yes but Chivas, your guessing again. We dont want you to guess, we can all guess at stuff.
We want to know whats going on from them.
The last patch, Luthier didnt even ask for a bug thread, i posted it myself, and since then he hasn't even acknowledged anything about that patch, the bug thread or anything in it...hell he didnt even acknowledge its there.
Then we get last weeks update where nothing was said about any patch ,or the bugs from last week, or the missing items that were going to be released shortly or community manager...no we get some pictures of the team.

And this week nothing about fecking anything.

[jimbop]

The steam list is very interesting, especially since you don't have to buy WoP through steam. Due to a playable offline campaign I guess? Can't wait to see CoD on the list.