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Old 11-12-2010, 11:08 PM
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I have nothing to say other than the applause of what has already been said. And Oleg has very positively answered some and more of the weak points that have been seen in the footage, once again showing that he has that eye for detail.

Stunning work, no pressure from me, get it dead right. I'll be buying and force feeding it to as many people as I can!!
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:19 PM
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Why do they bother?
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:09 AM
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A warbird in a flight simulator?

Producing warbirds for FSX or X-Plane?

IMO, flight simulators make sense with competent navigation, instruments and procedures for the current time.

Don't get me wrong I do admire some of the outstanding 3rd party aircraft, just don't see the value.

I tried the FA/18 in FSX, and found it was more interesting to fly the Jane's FA/18 in combat situations. Afterall... warbirds are for shooting, bombing and causing havoc.

If I were training to fly the FA/18 as a real pilot I would definitely spend alot of time flying instruments and charts in FSX or X-Plane. You can definitely improve your real world flying skills in a flight simulator.

When it comes to air combat... that's another story.
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Old 11-13-2010, 01:57 AM
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A warbird in a flight simulator?

Producing warbirds for FSX or X-Plane?

IMO, flight simulators make sense with competent navigation, instruments and procedures for the current time.

Don't get me wrong I do admire some of the outstanding 3rd party aircraft, just don't see the value.

I tried the FA/18 in FSX, and found it was more interesting to fly the Jane's FA/18 in combat situations. Afterall... warbirds are for shooting, bombing and causing havoc.

If I were training to fly the FA/18 as a real pilot I would definitely spend alot of time flying instruments and charts in FSX or X-Plane. You can definitely improve your real world flying skills in a flight simulator.

When it comes to air combat... that's another story.
There is much more to a sim than the looks. Fidelity is a huge part of it as well.

Combat flight sims (IL-2, DCS, & ROF, for example) have a much more realistic flight / damage model than sims like FSX or X-Plane.

In combat flight sims, if you push your aircraft outside of its flight envelope, you can destroy it without touching anything, like in real life. FSX isn't going to let you shed your wings, even if you are pulling 12G's at speeds exceeding VNE.

The way the aircraft handle feels much more realistic in combat sims, with things like sideslipping and spins, largely based on my experience flying Cessnas. DCS BS compares well to my one discovery flight in a helo. IL-2 feels good to me, and FSX feels like a cheap toy. It's like a Formula 1 sim where you can jump curbs, go offroading, all without fear of damaging your car.

The only reason to run FSX or X-Plane seems (at least for me), for particular aircraft, airports, or ATC. The flight experience though, is lacking.

I'd rather fly non-combat flights in a combat flight sim than fly in FSX or X-Plane.

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Old 11-13-2010, 12:32 AM
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The second video is more than amazing,and if that is in lower settings,oh god,what kind of machine will run it?

What I just noticed is that the planes turn too fast/drastically.
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:47 PM
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Love it,love it,love it.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:01 PM
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From Wikipedia:
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Further information: Strafgesetzbuch § 86a

The German (and Austrian) postwar criminal code makes the public showing of the Hakenkreuz (the swastika) and other Nazi symbols illegal and punishable, except for scholarly reasons. It is even censored from the lithographs on boxes of model kits, and the decals that come in the box. Modellers seeking an accurate rendition often have to either stencil on the marking, or purchase separate decals. It is also censored from the reprints of 1930s railway timetables published by the Reichsbahn. The eagle remains, but appears to be holding a solid black circle between its talons. The swastikas on Hindu and Jain temples are exempt, as religious symbols cannot be banned in Germany.

A German fashion company was investigated for using traditional British-made folded leather buttons after complaints that they resembled swastikas. In response, Esprit destroyed two hundred thousand catalogues.[65][66]
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(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkr...tern_countries)
If Oleg will sell his Game in Germany and Austria (Germany is a great Market for Computer Games) there should be no Hakenkreuz visible in the game and no option to enable it.
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:00 AM
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Very beautiful play of lighting on the first video of the Stuka. Well tempered. As it was precisely the kind of video snippet I was anticipating. It looks good.
Now I can ponder what system will drive that kind of work.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:27 AM
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Thanks Oleg, this is looking spectacular. Wonderful nightime shot, can't wait to see the moonlight on the wings. Lovely.
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Old 12-02-2010, 04:02 PM
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Night shot:


Sorry for nitpicking, but it is impossible to see so many stars with full moon.
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