Don't you feel ripped off as a console gamer?

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I worked at a small underground newspaper for a while, here in LA. This was nothing compared to the amount some of us wrote.

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

No But this was a couple years back. The papers no longer around.

Anyone else seeing a relation between the two?

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Not ripped off enough to read all that . Don't get a career at a newspaper.

Well if you're not gonna be bothered to read the post, why bother to submit a reply??? If not for the vain attempt at a witty one-liner for the popularity vanity, lol!

For your oneliner to be replied to though; i will indeed take onboard your advice. I build Westland Helicopters & if that goes wrong I will steer away from the reporting industry!

[GabeFan]

I don't have IL-2 for the PC, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. But, I do know that BOP is a great game, and better than any other console flight game before. Sure there are things that everybody would like improved (A single-player mission editor would be awesome), so maybe in the sequel...

[jaywinner]

Originally Posted by GabeFan

I don't have IL-2 for the PC, so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. But, I do know that BOP is a great game, and better than any other console flight game before. Sure there are things that everybody would like improved (A single-player mission editor would be awesome), so maybe in the sequel...

basically what i was saying, but he said it better. not alot of options in terms of flight games for us. so we dont know what we are missing.... all i want REALLY BAD is customizable controls for my saitek

[PantherAttack2]

You need to keep in mind that Birds of Prey isn't just a port of IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946, it's an entirely new game. It tries to appeal to the majority of console gamers who don't want to bother with a simulator and just want to shoot stuff (generalization). I will admit they could have put in a mission editor, but I'm still having a great time playing it even without one.

BoP is lacking in many aspects compared to IL-2 1946, but it has made great improvements over other console combat flight games.

[GCoutinho]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

...OK I am from a community that makes skins for IL-2 online for ppl to share & vice versa. IL-2 1946 that came out only a few years ago was the complete series in one & cost in the region of £25 with the addons that were boxed with a dvd & instruction booklet were around a tenner online & not to mention the replayablity still today in new aircraft being made, all free ofcourse etc (just check out youtube).
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Devs. Want my money? Simple! I have paid for a great, very powerful, all singing, all dancing console machine here & pay far more for a console game to a PC equivelent. Just give me what the PC boys have got or somewhere close. All I want is the full game. I WANT IL-2 STURMOVIK!!!
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Personally i don't feel ripped of at all as a console gamer, i still remember when IL2 Sturmovik was released back in 2001 with only 30 flyable planes.
Since then a lot of flightsim entusiasts bought (myself included) :
- IL2 Sturmovik (Full Game)
- IL2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles (Full Game)
- IL2 Sturmovik Aces Expansion Pack (Expansion)
- IL2 Sturmovik Pacific Fighter (Full Game)

These where the foundations that allowed you to buy IL2 1946 a couple of years later for only £25. It's a bit unfair to compare both games at this stage.

[Houndstone Hawk]

To Phlux:

Unlike the other guy in the thread, you actually had bothered to atleast read the post & so you have my respect, along with my apologies if i appeared 'eletist' or over intillegent to a 'dumb down console crowd'. I meant to appear as neither & on the contrary, I have huge respect for the console owners like myself that will undoubtedly be "disappointed" once again.

We have great machines, very powerful, keyboard ready & flightstick compatible units with tons of memory & acres of HDD space; it's not far removed from a pc yet the games (not the players) are dumbed down at sometimes nearly twice the cost. True; I expected IL-2 because I bothered to read everything about this game from its conception.

As for my job, I was merely responding to a sarcastic comment made by Mr Big himself.

[phlux]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

To Phlux:

Unlike the other guy in the thread, you actually had bothered to atleast read the post & so you have my respect, along with my apologies if i appeared 'eletist' or over intillegent to a 'dumb down console crowd'. I meant to appear as neither & on the contrary, I have huge respect for the console owners like myself that will undoubtedly be "disappointed" once again.

We have great machines, very powerful, keyboard ready & flightstick compatible units with tons of memory & acres of HDD space; it's not far removed from a pc yet the games (not the players) are dumbed down at sometimes nearly twice the cost. True; I expected IL-2 because I bothered to read everything about this game from its conception.

As for my job, I was merely responding to a sarcastic comment made by Mr Big himself.

Fair enough.

However sir, I must say that since the game has been out (in some places) for a month now, anyone left posting on this forum would obviously be enjoying it despite it's few shortcomings. I'm certain you knew the reaction you'd get, and the first few sentences of your opening post confirm it. I'm just curious as to your motivation for starting this discussion.

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by phlux

Fair enough.

However sir, I must say that since the game has been out (in some places) for a month now, anyone left posting on this forum would obviously be enjoying it despite it's few shortcomings. I'm certain you knew the reaction you'd get, and the first few sentences of your opening post confirm it. I'm just curious as to your motivation for starting this discussion.

Did I not make that clear? Garbage DLC over fixes & the off-topic release of OFP: Dragon Rising, which will disappoint thousands more console owners that deserve to enjoy what their PC brethren receive.

Respect for the great sig btw!!!!

[PantherAttack2]

As far as the DLC is concerned, it's sort of silly to have people flying pre-order content planes and have nobody else be able to fly them at all. Now, yes they did make more single missions, but other than that the content was already there. Fixes are on the way anyways.