Since CloD is over

[BH_woodstock]

Can we please have the ALL the tools now???
since it is official i was wondering if we can have the tools to do with CloD what we can?I remember it was promised in the past and then we were told "no" because of possible future development,but since Clod is a stand alone and "abandoned" can we have what we need to make it "our" project?This community has been dedicated 100% and it would be pretty cool to have these tools available.
I know there are a few out there that would really like this and would do their best to make it nice.

[bongodriver]

Guys, the tools don't exist, they were never finished, this community stuck a middle finger up at CoD so 1C threw a hissy fit and fired Luthier and MG then flipped us the bird right back, 1C don't give a crap about any of us any more, they have washed their hands of the whole affair.

Bongo....yeah, what a great fan you turned out to be. What a great voice for the game, what a helpful soul, what a moderate, balanced voice. What nice, grateful view of 'your own' developers.

With 'friends' like you, they didn't need enemies.

Says it all.

Goodbye, Bonkers. See you soon.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Bongo....yeah, what a great fan you turned out to be. What a great voice for the game, what a helpful soul, what a moderate, balanced voice. What nice, grateful view of 'your own' developers.

With 'friends' like you, they didn't need enemies.

Says it all.

Goodbye, Bonkers. See you soon.

Ok bye....

[Hood]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Ok bye....

Hehe Bongo you and Falstaff are like a married couple. Kiss and make up?

CLOD and "whiners" are a bit like the chicken and egg i.e. which came first? I reckon CLOD but it was a turkey. Sadly they couldn't do all the necessary fixes in time to release a sequel in order to get more working capital. Having to make so many fixes to a deeply flawed piece of software is what killed CLOD.

It's a real shame but there you go. The future is now brighter and I the meantime I'll have fun with CLOD as it is now.

Hood

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Hood

Hehe Bongo you and Falstaff are like a married couple. Kiss and make up?

CLOD and "whiners" are a bit like the chicken and egg i.e. which came first? I reckon CLOD but it was a turkey. Sadly they couldn't do all the necessary fixes in time to release a sequel in order to get more working capital. Having to make so many fixes to a deeply flawed piece of software is what killed CLOD.

It's a real shame but there you go. The future is now brighter and I the meantime I'll have fun with CLOD as it is now.

Hood

Falstaff is always welcome to make an appology to me and I would always consider accepting it..

I think you will find the whiners came before CoD, Tree made quite a stink for many a year before release and built himself a little cult following.....probably consisting of a large proportion of his own aliases.
if flawed software guaranteed failure then I don't think there would be any in existence, CoD was buggy, if I had a dollar for every buggy game I ever bought I'd have several hundred dollars, no the game didn't make money because enough people whined about it and it became undesireable, now we are going to wait a year for something inferior but works out of the box like a console game which I think is a backup plan.

[He111]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Guys, ... this community stuck a middle finger up at CoD so 1C threw a hissy fit ....

When did we do that ?? I suspect poor sales put 1C into extreme financial stress .. thus they did something not smart - dump CLOD. In 2 years time when the world economy is normal again, CLOD will still be a sort after flight sim.

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[bongodriver]

When did we do that ??

Where have you been for the last year? poor sales is us not getting the wallets out, how many threads have we seen where people happily claim to have bought every flight sim title without playing it just to support the industry? but when it came to CoD it all changed and I am scratching my head wondering what they did to the flight sim community that made them turn so sour, promised too much? really? even if they fell short on the promises they gave us more than we had ever seen before.

[He111]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Where have you been for the last year? poor sales is us not getting the wallets out, how many threads have we seen where people happily claim to have bought every flight sim title without playing it just to support the industry? but when it came to CoD it all changed and I am scratching my head wondering what they did to the flight sim community that made them turn so sour, promised too much? really? even if they fell short on the promises they gave us more than we had ever seen before.

WE IL2-buffs did put our hands in our pockets even though most needed PC ugrades they couldn't afford (After GFC) ..so i suspect most IL2 simmers did do their duty even if they complaigned it wouldn't work on a XP running DOS 3.1. I suspect it was the gamers who bought IL2 - 1946 during the good times, abandoned CLOD during the bad. "fair weather simmers". I could be wrong, obviously 1C forcasters got it terribly wrong.

I still think abandoning CLOD now implies 1C thinks PC Flight simming is DEAD! why do they think that? WW2 buffs getting too old ? young people don't understand WW2 ? maybe ? but good advertising can sell anything .. 1C promoters obviously didn't do their job.

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[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by He111

WE IL2-buffs did put our hands in our pockets even though most needed PC ugrades they couldn't afford (After GFC) ..so i suspect most IL2 simmers did do their duty even if they complaigned it wouldn't work on a XP running DOS 3.1. I suspect it was the gamers who bought IL2 - 1946 during the good times, abandoned CLOD during the bad. "fair weather simmers". I could be wrong, obviously 1C forcasters got it terribly wrong.

I still think abandoning CLOD now implies 1C thinks PC Flight simming is DEAD! why do they think that? WW2 buffs getting too old ? young people don't understand WW2 ? maybe ? but good advertising can sell anything .. 1C promoters obviously didn't do their job.

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Recession was a big factor for sure, just look at my rig ...Steam I think was a big problem early on. Almost like it was grading your system, what's this guy kidding me CTD, Steam says take that looser