Request: Brake button like IL2 had.

[Dano]

Not all of us have a spare axis to assign and having only a 'full brakes' button is useless for attempting to slow upon landing or taxiing as it might just as well be called 'nose in the dirt' button. Please consider implementing a button ala IL2 where it progressively applied brakes depending on how long you hold the button.

Thanks.

[JG27CaptStubing]

+1

[MadBlaster]

I wrote a brake glovepie script that may work for you. It works this way.

one button increases overall brake pressure (both wheels) by 10% each time it is pressed. another button decreases overall brake pressure by 10% each time it is pressed. if it turn my rudder outside a deadzone, the brake pressure on the outside wheel decreases proportionally with the rudder, so the plane turns easier. the script is also enhanced with verbal commands (say"more" and brake pressure increases 10%, say "less" and brake pressure decreases by 10%). Anyway, you need to set up virtual joystick in ppjoy to make it work and put those virtual axis in your confuser.ini. Here it is if you want to try and make it work for you:

*BRAKES (in order to use rudder for independent braking, the brake must first be on)
if var.brake=0 then
var.brake=-1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
say"brake is off"
elseif var.brake>1 then
var.brake=1
say"maximum brake"
elseif var.brake<-1 then
var.brake=-1
say"brake is off"
endif
if (released(joystick1.button7) and var.brake>=-1) or (said("more",5) and var.brake>=-1) then
var.brake=var.brake+.2
say"more"
elseif (released(joystick1.button and var.brake>=-1) or (said("less",5) and var.brake>=-1) then
var.brake=var.brake-.2
say"less"
elseif said("release brake",5) or helddown(joystick1.Button8,1 second) then
var.brake=-1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
say"brake is off"
elseif said("landing gear",5)
var.brake=-.6
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
elseif said("full brake",5) or helddown(joystick1.Button7,1 second) then
var.brake=1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
wait var.stnddelay
say"maximum brake"
elseif said("half brake",5)
var.brake=-.01
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
wait var.stnddelay
say"half brake"
endif
if var.brake>-1 then
var.pright=roundto(ensuremaprange(joystick2.z,.2,1 ,0,1),-2)
var.pleft=roundto(ensuremaprange(joystick2.z,-.2,-1,0,1),-2)
if (joystick2.z>=.2) then
if var.brake<=0 then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-1-var.brake)*var.pright),-1)
elseif var.brake>0 then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-var.brake-1)*var.pright),-1)
endif
elseif (joystick2.z<=-.2) then
if var.brake<=0 then
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-1-var.brake)*var.pleft),-1)
elseif var.brake>0 then
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-var.brake-1)*var.pleft),-1)
endif
elseif (joystick2.z>-.2 and <.2) then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
endif
endif

[1.JaVA_Platypus]

Tapping the 'B' key very very gently works for me! RAF fighters didn't have toe-brakes. So, fancy rudder pedals aren't of use for those aircraft.

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

I wrote a brake glovepie script that may work for you. It works this way.

one button increases overall brake pressure (both wheels) by 10% each time it is pressed. another button decreases overall brake pressure by 10% each time it is pressed. if it turn my rudder outside a deadzone, the brake pressure on the outside wheel decreases proportionally with the rudder, so the plane turns easier. the script is also enhanced with verbal commands (say"more" and brake pressure increases 10%, say "less" and brake pressure decreases by 10%). Anyway, you need to set up virtual joystick in ppjoy to make it work and put those virtual axis in your confuser.ini. Here it is if you want to try and make it work for you:

*BRAKES (in order to use rudder for independent braking, the brake must first be on)
if var.brake=0 then
var.brake=-1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
say"brake is off"
elseif var.brake>1 then
var.brake=1
say"maximum brake"
elseif var.brake<-1 then
var.brake=-1
say"brake is off"
endif
if (released(joystick1.button7) and var.brake>=-1) or (said("more",5) and var.brake>=-1) then
var.brake=var.brake+.2
say"more"
elseif (released(joystick1.button and var.brake>=-1) or (said("less",5) and var.brake>=-1) then
var.brake=var.brake-.2
say"less"
elseif said("release brake",5) or helddown(joystick1.Button8,1 second) then
var.brake=-1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
say"brake is off"
elseif said("landing gear",5)
var.brake=-.6
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
elseif said("full brake",5) or helddown(joystick1.Button7,1 second) then
var.brake=1
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
wait var.stnddelay
say"maximum brake"
elseif said("half brake",5)
var.brake=-.01
var.ltbrake=var.brake
var.rtbrake=var.brake
wait var.stnddelay
say"half brake"
endif
if var.brake>-1 then
var.pright=roundto(ensuremaprange(joystick2.z,.2,1 ,0,1),-2)
var.pleft=roundto(ensuremaprange(joystick2.z,-.2,-1,0,1),-2)
if (joystick2.z>=.2) then
if var.brake<=0 then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-1-var.brake)*var.pright),-1)
elseif var.brake>0 then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-var.brake-1)*var.pright),-1)
endif
elseif (joystick2.z<=-.2) then
if var.brake<=0 then
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-1-var.brake)*var.pleft),-1)
elseif var.brake>0 then
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake+((-var.brake-1)*var.pleft),-1)
endif
elseif (joystick2.z>-.2 and <.2) then
var.rtbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
var.ltbrake=roundto(var.brake,-1)
endif
endif

Sorry, forgot to post this part. Variables map to these virtual axis:

*OUTPUT TO GAME AXIS
ppJoy2.Analog4=var.rtbrake /*Joystick4+AXE_U=1brakesrt*/
ppJoy2.Analog5=var.ltbrake /*Joystick4+AXE_V=1brakeslt*/

i.e., (you would set similar virtual axis up in your confUser.ini file.

[Sokol1]

In CloD you can use any Axis + modifier key to do some function.
Ie. Use stick X axis + Ctrl or Shift... as brake.

Pull stick back to up elevator (and avoid nose over), hit and hold modifier key, elevator stay up, but now X stick axis work as brake (proportional).

Same with throttle or another axis (to control propeller pitch, radiator...).

Sokol1

[335th_GRAthos]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

In CloD you can use any Axis + modifier key to do some function.
Ie. Use stick X axis + Ctrl or Shift... as brake.

Pull stick back to up elevator (and avoid nose over), hit and hold modifier key, elevator stay up, but now X stick axis work as brake (proportional).

Same with throttle or another axis (to control propeller pitch, radiator...).

Sokol1

Whaaaaat !!!!?????

This is a great thing Sokol if it is true, it should be added to the Q&A !!!!

I will try it, T H A N K S !

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Sokol1

In CloD you can use any Axis + modifier key to do some function.
Ie. Use stick X axis + Ctrl or Shift... as brake.

Pull stick back to up elevator (and avoid nose over), hit and hold modifier key, elevator stay up, but now X stick axis work as brake (proportional).

Same with throttle or another axis (to control propeller pitch, radiator...).

Sokol1

I already tried this and it failed to work, will try again. But still my request remains, a brake button that functions the same as it did in IL2 is needed.