Beating the game with no losses (Paladin)

[ywhtptgt]

Originally Posted by sector24

More good luck, I found 10 cyclopes at the castle in Creiston Mines, so I was able to finish up that stupid quest for the rare animals and replace my royal thorns against fire based enemies. I think it's amusing that it costs 5000g to buy a cyclops and the reward is 4000g.

The dwarven lands are severely underwhelming after cutting my teeth against pirates. Most fights are "match" or "slightly weaker" which I guess makes sense because not every player would take the time to kill every single army they came across and do every single quest. So it seems I'm overleveled for this area.

I have used the lull to level up Lina, I summon her at least once every fight, although I think I've had some back luck on the actual level up bonuses. Twice, I've had the option to increase either the ice ball's offensive or defensive stats. So basically my level up had to be applied to the ice ball no matter what, and the rage cost went up. It costs 30 rage now which is too expensive for what it does in my opinion. Thankfully Gizmo is still only 12, and I can always use chargers which basically trades 6 rage for 4 mana.

The boss in laboratory 44 was also very easy. I used my royal thorns to summon thorn stacks, which summoned more thorn stacks, and I used my shamans to drop totems on the outside hexes, until I had filled the entire battlefield. If the boss decided to summon allies but there aren't enough hexes open, it just skips its turn. So basically royal thorns = free pass on this fight, and the 6600xp puts me just short of level 17.

I think this fight needs a boost. At a minimum, if the summon allies action isn't possible the boss should attack, but I think possibly the boss needs a 3rd type of attack to prevent the royal thorns exploit. Perhaps spitting webs on everyone causing mass slow (so it's harder to raise all the thorn stacks), or spitting poison on everything causing a 3-round poison debuff. I don't know, something. I mean at least the Kraken could hit multiple stacks each turn so it was pretty much impossible to fill the screen with thorns. This boss was not challenging at all.

The spider boss is easy to kill no matter what... By the time you reach the dwarves, killing stacks of 100+ spiders without magic should be easy enough. The boss does pretty much nothing unless you stand next to it.

[Keneth]

Next to the turtle, the spider fight is probably one of the easiest in the game. Another strategy is just to attack it with one or two stacks of ranged/no retal troops and let the other take care of spiders. Since you kill the spiders every turn, it's gonna try summoning new ones every time and meanwhile you're just pounding and nuking it, it falls quickly on any difficulty.

[Gina S.]

I am very impressed and read your strategies with fascination! I'll be using some of them, I'm sure

You're much more patient than I am so I know I could never do this, but I admire someone who us undertaking it. Good luck!

[Harush]

The way I beat the spider is to dump Demon Gate and thorns in every open square. You can surround your ranged guys with expendables way before the spider armies get too tough.

[Hento]

It is not possible to have no losses because of initial dragon quest.

[YENKO]

Originally Posted by Hento

It is not possible to have no losses because of initial dragon quest.

Bah, ignore the quest/test and go straight to the King's castle!
Never argue with the pro's, absorb their knowledge instead

[Gatts]

Originally Posted by Hento

It is not possible to have no losses because of initial dragon quest.

You are right - but that is not reason enough not to have 0-loses

Guys who finished the game on impossible all said that they either captured the doll avoiding the dragon fight - or as Yenko said - went out without the training... (what is not advised as in the training you can get some exp, money ...not much but on impossible everyting counts)

[Keneth]

Yup, there's no need to fight the dragon but it is true that you can't fight the dragon and have 0 losses.

[Gatts]

Sadly it is really impossible to beat the dragon wo loses, and here is why I believe why:

Difficulty: Impossible
Race: Paladin
You may have HEALING spell - but it heals 55 HP only
Ressurection can't be placed in spellbok, but you can't use the scroll anyway - as it does not work on knight / horseman
You can't really buff your hero - as you have only 2/4/2 runes (might/mind/magic)
even if you play "hit me first" strategy -> you could with max luck win wo loses, but you would lose ressurection scroll -> so all ohter battles would not work for ya

"hit me first strategy" -> keep only one weak stack -> i.e. 5 peasants - dragon will wait if your army is far away enough - move only peasant one step forward and dragon will use his "drag and hit" skill on peasant -> try to finish the dragon using heal spell and horsemen and knights (still it is only question of luck luck luck each hit and there is huge probability that either horseman or knight will die, but reload can do it) - befor you land last hit, you don't need heal - use only ressurection on peasants...

but even with many many reloads - you will lose the scroll... so where is the win?

[taltamir]

Originally Posted by Gatts

Sadly it is really impossible to beat the dragon wo loses, and here is why I believe why:

Difficulty: Impossible
Race: Paladin
You may have HEALING spell - but it heals 55 HP only
Ressurection can't be placed in spellbok, but you can't use the scroll anyway - as it does not work on knight / horseman
You can't really buff your hero - as you have only 2/4/2 runes (might/mind/magic)
even if you play "hit me first" strategy -> you could with max luck win wo loses, but you would lose ressurection scroll -> so all ohter battles would not work for ya

"hit me first strategy" -> keep only one weak stack -> i.e. 5 peasants - dragon will wait if your army is far away enough - move only peasant one step forward and dragon will use his "drag and hit" skill on peasant -> try to finish the dragon using heal spell and horsemen and knights (still it is only question of luck luck luck each hit and there is huge probability that either horseman or knight will die, but reload can do it) - befor you land last hit, you don't need heal - use only ressurection on peasants...

but even with many many reloads - you will lose the scroll... so where is the win?

maybe with extreme luck and some reloads you would find one available for sale early on, early enough for you to fight and kill and earn the needed money to buy it. But that would be a truly insane challenge just to kill the dragon.
Question then, this is about finishing the game, not killing all enemy stacks.
So, tell me sector24. did you kill all roaming stacks and finish / fail all quests? or did you choose not to do some of them?