Compilation of Aircraft Systems Errors/Bugs/Modelling Mistakes

[Luno13]

My 2 cents:

If you pause at 0:47 you can see full aileron deflection, and at 0:39, the slip indicates full rudder.

It's important to remember that the A5M is extremely light with moderately large control surfaces. It's not 1 and 1/2 wings that it's flying on, but closer to 1 3/4 or even 1 4/5 (look at the break-point and realize that the eliptical shape of the wings means that a length of the tip has much less area than an equal length at another part of the wing.)

The upturned bit of metal at the leading edge probably contributed a great deal to its stability.

That's not to say that flying with this much damage isn't possible....It just takes a variety of specific circumstances to come together perfectly. Think of all the pilots who lost that much wing area and didn't make it back. Those are the ones that never appear in films.

Compare this to the Hurricane screenshot:

1) clean break of the wing. No protruding bits to influence roll.

2) Ailerons are small, and roll authority is sub-par to begin with, especially compared to the A5M

3) Considerably greater area of the wing is lost, including the entire right aileron (The A5M still had 1/2 of its left aileron).

4) Hurricane has no rudder or even fin left.

Conclusion: Hurricane should not be flying straight and level.

[Zachariasx]

J.E. Johnson mentiones in his book ("Wing Commander") the occurrence of a Spit 9 having a damaged wing after a midair collition with another Spit.

Backtranslating to English he says "...and I saw, that the largest part of the starboard aileron as well as the wingtip was torn off."

The pilot managed to keep flying for some time, but lot long enough to fly from the french coast (wher the collision happened) all th way to english soil. The pilot was struggling with all his force to hold the controls. The plane was rolling more and more until it was not possible to hold it level flight. As his canopy was blocked and closed, the pilot, Shouldice, perished in the sea.

So it can be debated wheter the theoretical possibility of keeping a plane somehow aloft is realistic when done with a joystik, when in the real world control forces prohibit such.

The impact of control forces were also a real world debate: As Hanna Reitsch complained (to the Führer!) that the control forces of a Me 321 are unacepptably high (It had just one pilot seat) Willy Messereschmitt retorted (also to the Führer) "Well, she's not really a big warrior, is she?"
(She wasn't really tall... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rch_Hitler.jpg)


Cheers!

Originally Posted by Luno13

My 2 cents:

If you pause at 0:47 you can see full aileron deflection, and at 0:39, the slip indicates full rudder.

It's important to remember that the A5M is extremely light with moderately large control surfaces. It's not 1 and 1/2 wings that it's flying on, but closer to 1 3/4 or even 1 4/5 (look at the break-point and realize that the eliptical shape of the wings means that a length of the tip has much less area than an equal length at another part of the wing.)

The upturned bit of metal at the leading edge probably contributed a great deal to its stability.

That's not to say that flying with this much damage isn't possible....It just takes a variety of specific circumstances to come together perfectly. Think of all the pilots who lost that much wing area and didn't make it back. Those are the ones that never appear in films.

Compare this to the Hurricane screenshot:

1) clean break of the wing. No protruding bits to influence roll.

2) Ailerons are small, and roll authority is sub-par to begin with, especially compared to the A5M

3) Considerably greater area of the wing is lost, including the entire right aileron (The A5M still had 1/2 of its left aileron).

4) Hurricane has no rudder or even fin left.

Conclusion: Hurricane should not be flying straight and level.

[vnvv_stea]

Originally Posted by Zachariasx

J.E. Johnson mentiones in his book ("Wing Commander") the occurrence of a Spit 9 having a damaged wing after a midair collition with another Spit.

Backtranslating to English he says "...and I saw, that the largest part of the starboard aileron as well as the wingtip was torn off."

The pilot managed to keep flying for some time, but lot long enough to fly from the french coast (wher the collision happened) all th way to english soil. The pilot was struggling with all his force to hold the controls. The plane was rolling more and more until it was not possible to hold it level flight. As his canopy was blocked and closed, the pilot, Shouldice, perished in the sea.

So it can be debated wheter the theoretical possibility of keeping a plane somehow aloft is realistic when done with a joystik, when in the real world control forces prohibit such.

The impact of control forces were also a real world debate: As Hanna Reitsch complained (to the Führer!) that the control forces of a Me 321 are unacepptably high (It had just one pilot seat) Willy Messereschmitt retorted (also to the Führer) "Well, she's not really a big warrior, is she?"
(She wasn't really tall... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rch_Hitler.jpg)


Cheers!

I agree that to fly with half wing should be very hard (i know from a real life). But what i want to say is that 109 has very well modeled flight behavior without a wing, yes i can keep forward but not to keep combat and defensive. while in spits and hurry they save 95% of thear roll rate and lift, this sholdnt be possible (i will not comment AI, without wing and ailerons and ruder and elevator they have the same performance as on a brand new one plane)!

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by vnvv_stea

I agree that to fly with half wing should be very hard (i know from a real life).

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[HorrorRoach]

Here's a bug I experienced:

It's happened in the Stuke/G.50... So basically, if i pan around with the keypad or my logitech G510's G keys, my pitch/mix get set to 50%. I've double checked for any key conflicts. It's incredibly annoying. My joysticks' hat switch works though. Anyone know why this happens? I had to disable steam cloud, to default my settings. Fixed it.

I don't want this to happen to new COD players who aren't diligent enough to take care of it themselves.

[chris16787]

The spitfire mk1a that is in the game didnot have a rotol propeller, instead it was more like the mk1 with a dehavilland unit fitted.
There were 30 spitfire mk1b's that were fitted with cannon but were prone to jamming due to insufficient heating.
The throttle control unit in the cockpit is modelled on a mk5 and later unit and the mk1-1a-2a which didnt have the bomb release control fitted to it.
the landing light control unit is missing from the cocpit and should be positioned under the control panel between the compass and the throttle control unit.
there should be both two seperate fuel gauges where the one fuel gauge is and two fuel cocks as the spitfire had two fuel tanks, and a vickers pressure release cock to the left of the fuel cocks
also the coolant tank is missing and should wrap around the front of the spitfires engine( around the scew gear casing)
also the performance of all the spitfires that are in the game should be almost unnoticable and like the mk2a, at the moment the mk1-1a are underpowered especially on accelleration.
all the aircraft should have the controls activated for landing and navigation lights
the radio control unit on the mk2a should be the tr133 unit and not the tr9d which it currently is.
Here is a video that shows a mk1a being inspected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJiAdMD8AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv2x6RQxFDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUnun6QmVXk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5__b34cEORE

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Aircraft type:
Spitfire

System affected:
Mixture control

Description of the problem:
Mixture lever in Rich position in cockpit is Lean mixture

Aircraft type:
British aircraft

System affected:
Crashed / damaged plane

Description of the problem:
On crashlanding the cockpit doubles with static components
With mirror off, if damage is sustained a fake mirror appears.