Quick epilepsy update

[Osprey]

I can't believe that some people actually cancelled their orders, but in hindsight I am glad they did because it was a protest that Ubi obviously listened to!

[Fearfactor]

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

[sod16]

Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Steam servers are sometimes screwed up. Generally though, I like the service though I dont use it much. ALl i know is the download speeds off the site always max my connection

[robtek]

Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Well, i imagine that to build what steam offers would cost 1c and/or ubi more than the loss of even 200000 (largely exaggerated, imho) sales.
So it is a net gain for 1c/ubi and only the loss of the "steam-haters", isn't it?

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Maybe ppl bypassing Steam would reconsider once they saw the numbers of IL-2 sales back in the days. All of the old titles sales have been bad, and I saw few interviews with Oleg Maddox saying close to 50% onliners didn`t buy the game at all (some say that it is closer to 95%). It is entirely understandable for me that 1C would use SOME kind of protection this time, even if it prevents pirates only from playing online. But the catch here is : online is the place to be. Saying that more ppl would buy this without Steam is simply untrue - they would simply torrent it because they can. And from what I heard and read, the 200.000 figure would be a big success for 1C if CloD ever sold like that.
With a market as small as that, every sold copy counts.

[Space Communist]

Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Haha that is the most hilarious overestimate since The Church of Scientology last claimed their number of practitioners.

The game would be doing very well to manage to sell 200K copies worldwide, period. Some crazy little IL-2 forum is hardly an indicator for average gaming demographics. There are tens of millions of steam users. I absolutely guarantee that the game will sell more copies during its first steam special (usually happens within a year of release) than the total number of people even registered on whatever forums you are talking about.

[Revvy]

I've been buying and playing for the beginning, I'm getting 22fps,no aa or af, can't change from 1280x1024, very stuttery, big disappointment.

What a letdown


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[Codex]

Awesome news mate.

Just one question, have the DVD versions been affected by this epi filter? I mean I've been advised my order will be available tomorrow so I would have assumed the store would have had my copy sitting in the back room for about a week now.

[luthier]

Originally Posted by Codex

Awesome news mate.

Just one question, have the DVD versions been affected by this epi filter? I mean I've been advised my order will be available tomorrow so I would have assumed the store would have had my copy sitting in the back room for about a week now.

The game will not allow you to play the version that's on the DVD even if you try. The installer will automatically grab and download the latest version as it exists on steam's servers, and install that right off the bat.

So, whenever it is you install the game, your version will be the same as everybody else's. You can choose to disable future updates if you like but not with the initial install.

[Codex]

Originally Posted by luthier

The game will not allow you to play the version that's on the DVD even if you try. The installer will automatically grab and download the latest version as it exists on steam's servers, and install that right off the bat.

So, whenever it is you install the game, your version will be the same as everybody else's. You can choose to disable future updates if you like but not with the initial install.

Sweet ... thanks for clearing that up Luthier