Post links to 'cheating using the soundmod' tracks here:

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

yep, and the hack kiddie bunch should all be banned from here, and any discussion of the hacks locked out. trying to compromise by having some discussion on it allowed is counter productive because of the blatantly selfish vandalism that motivates the hack supporters.

Yet you keep it going...

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

sure, great idea, and lets just see how long civilized communication will last

ahh you didnt even last a single paragraph before you started adding insults yourself, what a surprise.

so what do you think will happen now ? if some act like juveniles and get rude and offensive they shouldnt complain when they get a spraying back.

Now Zapatista, first off - it wasnt an insult at you... directly. If anything - it is at all those who are continuating this stupid, irrelevant thread!

Secondly, you arent a Moderator - so stop trying to police everything to do with the mod's...

In addition, I think I should clarify for YOU that I am neither pro nor anti mod's.

Step back from your little soap box, and think for a moment: What good are you even VAGUELY doing? None - mearly exasperating the situation further.

Pro-mod, or anti-mod - it doesnt matter - as the fact is well and truely MUTE; the mods/hacks are there - they arent going nowhere.

Calling for all 'pro-modders' to be banned is pathetic, juvenile, and unrealistic.

Simply put: GET OVER IT. Its old news, and no matter how much moaning, pointing, or name calling - they arent going to just pack up shop and run away.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

Yet you keep it going..:

the most sensible statement on that was made by ivan, who somewhere at the start of the 2 threads on mods suggested that the only positive spin on the hack issue could be made by giving some examples of how the sim can actually be improved with some of the edits.

some good examples of this would be the new flames from aircraft exhausts,new landing gear noise, new reflections and "shine" on skins, new fire and smoke effects, the new maps like okinawa etc.. some of these could be minor changes that can improve the game if they were added to minor patches. in theory there is a lot of talent available of people that have the interest and time to make positive contributions and then one of olegs programmers could spend a single hr of his time to briefly check those modifications for bugs, and then include them in a future patch.

the problem however is that it is not a choice of having our current il2 "and" simply adding some improvements, but it is "either" having the original il2 OR loosing all online full real competitive use of this sim after 5 years. locking il2 again for fair online use is not a simple act, it is complex and takes significant man hour time and effort, and it might not even be possible anymore so we will be stuck with total online anarchy for the next 12 months while we wait for BoB. and it is not for jasonvision or stalkerbirder (pun intended) to decide for the rest of the online il2 community how they can use their sim online.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

Now Zapatista, first off - it wasnt an insult at you... directly. If anything - it is at all those who are continuating this stupid, irrelevant thread!

then you should read what you type before pressing the submit button, because it is exactly what you previously did.

Originally Posted by Razer

So why dont YOU take the more mature route, and display that you're above it - rather than getting right on in there and slinging feeces like some retarded ape?

i'd say there is no confusion possible there with your insult being directed at me, even if prior to that there had been no negativity on my part directed at you personally to justify it. raise your self awareness if you are going to try and communicate with others in a meaningful manner.

[Razer]

Originally Posted by zapatista

then you should read what you type before pressing the submit button, because it is exactly what you previously did.



i'd say there is no confusion possible there with your insult being directed at me, even if prior to that there had been no negativity on my part directed at you personally to justify it. raise your self awareness if you are going to try and communicate with others in a meaningful manner.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Razer

[Widowmaker214]

44 pages...

44 PAGES.. of this!?!?

The Zoo.. is back.

And ya'll talk about kiddie pimple faced hackers..

But there is 44 pages of just mouths running.

This reminds me of high school.

I feel bad for the Mod.

You have my sympathy evgeny

[JG52Uther]

Evgeny should be back today from Russian holiday.Hopefully he will close/delete these threads.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Widowmaker214

44 pages...

44 PAGES.. of this!?!?

sure, seems silly indeed, but lets have a look why it went that far.

it took 40 pages for the hack kiddies to be forced to admit that blatant and undetected use of hacks on full real servers was now indeed possible (with recent variations of the soundmod hack), and all pretense of it not affecting the online users had to be dropped. for most regular users of the full real servers that was obvious from page 1.

the last pages have just degenerated into them being quite open about not caring that it has destroyed the online game for full real server users, and that predictably creates a fair bit of animosity from those affected.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Widowmaker214

44 pages...

44 PAGES.. of this!?!?

The Zoo.. is back.

And ya'll talk about kiddie pimple faced hackers..

But there is 44 pages of just mouths running.

This reminds me of high school.

I feel bad for the Mod.

You have my sympathy evgeny

UBI was never this bad. It's not UBI's or 1C's fault. It's the folks who continue the diatribes and vocal fornicating that perpetuate the perception of UBI being a zoo.

I guess it's not the place, but the people. (I've been guilty on occasion too)