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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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Even though I am German, I doubt that conclusion very much. Germany would have been with Europe already very over stretched, also the States started rather early with their "Manhatten Project". I would say it would have resulted in some European Hiroshimas. As the German leaders at the time where known for making a lot of big blunders, there is no way I would see that it was even vaguely possible to invade either the southern or northern American continent. I think things just would have gotten a step more uglier.
Wasn't it because of the defeat of Germany that the US was able to finalise the project using those top German scientists? or were they well able just using the scientists they 'collected' from Germany during the course of the war?
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On a related subject, does anyone remember the name of the book (might of been 2) the Germans had which listed British subjects they wanted to capture\arrest in case they invaded? Were they the red and black books?
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Err what historical context are you attempting to put it in? As i see no historical context in your post.

This game represents a tiny battle nothing like Stalingrad. It was important but it certainly was not huge or even large.
Errrrrrmmmmmmm, doubt it. It was the largest aerial battle of the war...look at the stats on Wiki....literally double the numbers involved. "Tiny" indeed....tut

Plus, it was the last stronghold of Europe (exc Russia) and a morale kick in the b0llocks for the Germans...they finally realised they couldn't trample all over the continent doing what they wanted and getting away with it.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:17 AM
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Plus, it was the last stronghold of Europe (exc Russia) and a morale kick in the b0llocks for the Germans...they finally realised they couldn't trample all over the continent doing what they wanted and getting away with it.
I think alot of 'Germans' already felt that way, it was a kick in the B0llock for Hitler
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:24 AM
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I think alot of 'Germans' already felt that way, it was a kick in the B0llock for Hitler
True true...
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Just a few thoughts:


- the defeat of the UK means no British-American alliance

- no British colonies(they would now be German, lol) to protect in Southeast Asia or Africa
[this also means unlimited supply of fuel for the new owners]

- no oil embargo against Japan, no Pearl Harbor, therefore no war between USA and Japan or Germany.
[I'd be easier for the Nips to get oil from Germany than declaring war on the US]

- Japan conquers the better part of China

- without US supplies Stalin's Army is doomed.

- Before 1950 one of the assassination attempts on Hitler is finally successful
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Anyone ever read Philip K Dick's book 'The Man in the High Castle'.

A bit random, but an interesting read.
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:02 PM
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The gerat thing about the Battle of Britain and the what if scenarios is that you can look at it in many different ways and come up with a variety of different outcomes. My personal favourite is the likely outcome of the initial airborne invasion.
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lol.. when i said the BoB was tiny.. i meant it.. but i was also playing with language..it was very important but it was very small. It only involved a few 1000 personnel, whilst large battles in the East had millions of participants.

It is pure speculation what would have happened if Germany had got control of the skies. They might have invaded they might not, if they did it might have successful or it might not.

Their 'defeat' was a significant turning point in British fortunes and did help the Allies eventually open a western front in Europe.
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Just a few thoughts:


- the defeat of the UK means no British-American alliance

- no British colonies(they would now be German, lol) to protect in Southeast Asia or Africa
[this also means unlimited supply of fuel for the new owners]

- no oil embargo against Japan, no Pearl Harbor, therefore no war between USA and Japan or Germany.
[I'd be easier for the Nips to get oil from Germany than declaring war on the US]

- Japan conquers the better part of China

- without US supplies Stalin's Army is doomed.

- Before 1950 one of the assassination attempts on Hitler is finally successful
What do you mean 'no British colonies'? Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa, declared war on Germany by themselves.
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