Oleg, Luthier, you need to give UBI a damn good bollocking.

[alberto1960]

Originally Posted by Dano

I'm sorry but they are doing nothing to help sell your sim, in fact I'd go as far to say that they are actively damaging your sales with their complete incompetence regarding information and release.

You have a contract with them one would assume and we all know contracts work both ways so please, get on the phone and tell UBI to get a grib and sort it out.

We are two and a half weeks from release and we are still getting conflicting information in all areas and it looks ridiculous.

DRM, first it was TAGES, then it was Solidshield, now with added Steam. Which is it?

How about some positive information on release? Colectors editions in countries other than the UK? Normal boxed copies? Steam release schedules? Availability of boxed copies from sources other than UBI?

If the March 25th release is genuine as we have been told then why on earth is this information not forthcoming from UBI? Are they your publisher in the west or not?

If I was about to launch the results of a 5 or 6 year project that I wanted to be a success I'd be utterly livid with UBI's lacklustre and frankly pathetic handling of the situation.

Somebody over at UBI needs a damn good kick up the backside or are they just regurgitaing what they've been told and it's all down to your department? Something I find difficult to believe given your confirmed worldwide release in 18 days.

I totally agree with you. I cannot accept a download for such high level product. I wish a CD and if possible a collector edition. Non a good job from UBI.

[Yvetette]

Originally Posted by alberto1960

I totally agree with you. I cannot accept a download for such high level product. I wish a CD and if possible a collector edition. Non a good job from UBI.

Totally agreed! The Steam contract one has to accept makes it possible that your pc can be spyed all the time and what ever you do for the game you bought can be stolen without compensation. Who needs this? And BTW I just cancelled my preorder.

[Novotny]

Cheerio then! Don't forget to post in the goodbye thread.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Yvetette

Totally agreed! The Steam contract one has to accept makes it possible that your pc can be spyed all the time and what ever you do for the game you bought can be stolen without compensation. Who needs this? And BTW I just cancelled my preorder.

Your reading comprehension is abysmal. It says any communications you make through the community can be used. That mostly is a legal issue thanks to stupid US politics and little to do with Valve actually giving 2 shits about what you say. I am equally sure that all IMs have a similar clause.

If by spy on you you mean they keep track of your purchases through their client, and the amount of time you play games then yes. Otherwise you are really blowing it out of proportion and being paranoid.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Kikuchiyo

Good thing there are people outside this community that bring people in to flight siming. I for one am part of another community that trains and introduces new people to flight sims. Just because we are younger and also enjoy FPSes doesn't mean we don't know anything about or aren't passionate about flight sims. Just because some one is older doesn't make them more valuable either. Everyone must move forward, and Steam WILL introduce flight sims to a whole new audience. Some of them will come for the graphics some will come because they see people on their friends list playing, and some will come because they (like I did) have that youth love of aviation and the magic of it.

I actually got into FPSes because of flight sims, and not vice versa. It's a genre that up until recently has been dieing because of the very insular nature of the flight sim community at large. We often discount new people's views and opinions and information, and quite frankly run off new blood. Perhaps, I hope I am incorrect here, losing some old timers might actually be good for the community. If we can't get past being willful and xenophobic the genre will die. Steam may put a new face on flight sims and open it up to a younger crowd without having to deal with some of the messiness that comes with trying to integrate into a very clique group that many of us flight simmers are part of.

My community of flight simmers put a fun and inviting face on il-2:1946, and with all the recent buzz for Cliffs of Dover we've brought in quite a decent number of new blood to the genre, and they are learning fast and enjoying it. They tell their friends and get them in so on and so forth. Just because it isn't the way we as simmer like to play doesn't make it wrong, and just because making it fun doesn't teach the historical aspect doesn't mean it won't evolve into that.

I'm with you more or less, i just think there needs to be a balance so that the influx of new players can pe properly "assimilated" into the community.

I dont like Steam (for obvious reasons - I wouldnt post them here; no need to explain to some ignorants) but Im prepared to eat s*ite to be able to play my fav sim....

[Flying Pencil]

I am extremely worried about this situation.

An A380 plane crash looking for a place to happen.

[TheGrunch]

What, because you have to think of an account name and password, register them, and then activate the game once before clicking the Offline Mode button? Good luck finding a modern game published by a big publisher that isn't like that or worse.

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

What, because you have to think of an account name and password, register them, and then activate the game once before clicking the Offline Mode button? Good luck finding a modern game published by a big publisher that isn't like that or worse.

One of those "error encountered, cant authorize" type messages.

But it seems their may be alternate way to activate it, by phone.

[TheGrunch]

Possibly. You can also generate a manual activation code by visiting their website or something similar, I heard somewhere, if you'd like to guarantee it works.