New USAAF Campaign Desperately Needed

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Vulcan607

Most war games on the market have an American campain, fair dos you were in WWII and saved us Limeys skins, and cheers for that, but do you honestly think that those games would have sold aswell if they hadnt got a US campain mode?

Most of my favorite XBL quote came for Americans
"I dont know why you guys call it English, we invented it".
"Do you Know the Queen?" (one of the most common)
"England, what state is that in?"


but to be fair there are some damn fine chaps from the US out there.

How did they save us? They helped us win the war (thanks for that) but im not so sure they saved us. We kept the third reich at bay after 1940, granted we couldnt of invaded europe on our own but we could of survived ourselves as an island.

Unless the atlantic convoys comes under saving us? if so then yes i agree they did save us with those, giving us much needed supplies. Again - thanks for that

Another quote you failed to mention

"hey you british fag, we won the war of independence, we havn't lost a war yet" - clearly vietnam must slip your mind?

"Hey you british fag, we won the civil war" - well yeah naturally!!! you were fighting yourselves you dick

The above 2 quotes are usually aimed at me by americans under the age of 15, though the occasional "adult" will use them to. On the whole though the americans i do talk to are a great bunch who dont **** about.

Us brits are just as bad sometimes unfortunately.

[xX-SiLeNcE-Xx]

"Hey you british fag, we won the civil war" - well yeah naturally!!! you were fighting yourselves you dick

LOL That's awesome.

O, and Canada FTW! lol

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

"hey you british fag, we won the war of independence, we havn't lost a war yet" - clearly vietnam must slip your mind?

"Hey you british fag, we won the civil war" - well yeah naturally!!! you were fighting yourselves you dick

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Haha, hey you british fag:
1) Congress lost Vietnam when they banned any funding for South Vietnam in 1973. Also the Rambo movies rule, so from that perspective you might say that we won it.
2) Depends on where you're from, being from North Carolina, you might say my countrymen lost it. But goddamit we looked good doing it!
3) In war, nobody wins(though the Carthaginians might disagree, that is if they still existed to disagree. For those not in the know: Carthage was razed to the ground by the Romans after losing the Punic Wars)

Also why would someone brag to an Englishman about winning the American civil war? I'm pretty sure England won the English civil war too!

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by Crispus222

Actually, this is kind of an arrogant request imo. The developers did a great job on this game and your telling them that they need more US in it. Play any other WWII game and you'll most likely get American missions. Even though you guys were originally gonna stay out of the war until you got attacked by the Japanese in 1943 (Is that correct, 1943?). That's like me asking for a Canadian perspective for once. You think your misrepresented! We're not represented... I think it's refreshing to have a WWII game with a low American presence for once. Yes, the US helped win the war, but so did everyone else, and they fought for much longer. The perspective that is put out there is that you guys won the war and without you it could not happen. The game is great, so stop complaining. (I guess you just can't please them all though right... Everyone always wants something more...)

Again Let Me Re-State For The Reflexively Ameri-phobic:

BoP is great and seeing the eastern front and BoB portrayed in-depth is awesome, I understand that the Devs are Russian and hence have a particular interest in the eastern front, but being that variety is the spice of life, wouldn't it be nice to have a major side of the ETO air war, that has not yet been portrayed in BoP, be available as DLC? Edit to clarify: I don't want American pre-eminence or expect it, but more is more right? Wouldn't everyone like to play a side of the air war and planes not yet in the game regardless of ones nationality? BTW asking for DLC isn't a complaint, DLC exists precisely for the purpose of giving players more.

Furthermore the Canadian experience is represented, the Battle of Britain and Sicilian campaigns are all there with lots of aircraft and missions. Being that Canada at the time was a part of the British Empire many of the sorts of missions and aircraft flown by Canadians are there, just turn down the sound and imagine the pilots saying "eh" and "hoser" alot instead of "crikey" or "blighter" and you will be all set.

Though if you want I am totally down to petition for some Battle of the Atlantic anti-submarine missions, which were particularly Canadian jobs.

But lets not kid ourselves, while I would not argue that the courage and gallantry of Canadian pilots is in anyway less that that of Americans, comparing the scale of the RCAFs activity in the ETO and that of the USAAF is just plain silly. The USAAF played a *major* role (from 1943-45 perhaps THE major role) in the European air war and having some USAAF DLC would make the experience of BoP much more complete.

Also if you aren't sure as to whether or not the US entered the war in 1943 you might want to tone down the accusations of arrogance. BTW the U.S. entered the war on December 7, 1941, just a few months after Russia converted from being an ally of Germany to a foe, so much for "they fought for much longer".

[Tudorp15]

Foz... Why were they calling you a British cigarette?

lol

[Tudorp15]

The war aside.. I will honestly tell you when my level of respect rose to heights for the British military.. Well, while I served in what was know as SAC (Strategic Air Command) as a systems electrician on the B-52D/G. We used to hold friendly "Bomb Competitions". It was not as "popular" or well known as "Red Flag" (Top Gun type of tripe), but it was SAC's version of that. We used to participate along side of the Brits in their Vulcan Bomber (one of the coolest British Bombers IMHO. Well, my respect for the Brits rose to an all time high when after our ground support during the competitions, us mechanics, American, German, French, Israeli, Canadian, and Brits alike would go to the nearest watering hole for refreshing beverage. Well, the Brits and the Deutch would nearly vomit if we started drinking American beer, and generally, they would bring their own. Their cargo planes that supported the effort, I think were more to carry their ale than it was to carry their support equipment. They used to steal a few of us Americans and take off to help them lighten their cargo planes load. I tell you what, us Americans, who used to think we could drink, would be like we were made of rubber, and couldn't talk and those danged Brits used to have to carry us back to the dorm to put us to bed to rest up for the next day's events.. THOSE damned Brits could drink brother, and walk away when us American's forgot we even had legs.. lol

Cheers..

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Tudorp15

The war aside.. I will honestly tell you when my level of respect rose to heights for the British military.. Well, while I served in what was know as SAC (Strategic Air Command) as a systems electrician on the B-52D/G. We used to hold friendly "Bomb Competitions". It was not as "popular" or well known as "Red Flag" (Top Gun type of tripe), but it was SAC's version of that. We used to participate along side of the Brits in their Vulcan Bomber (one of the coolest British Bombers IMHO. Well, my respect for the Brits rose to an all time high when after our ground support during the competitions, us mechanics, American, German, French, Israeli, Canadian, and Brits alike would go to the nearest watering hole for refreshing beverage. Well, the Brits and the Deutch would nearly vomit if we started drinking American beer, and generally, they would bring their own. Their cargo planes that supported the effort, I think were more to carry their ale than it was to carry their support equipment. They used to steel a few of us Americans and take off to help them lighten their cargo planes load. I tell you what, us Americans, who used to think we could drink, would be like we were made of rubber, and couldn't talk and those danged Brits used to have to carry us back to the dorm to put us to bed to rest up for the next day's events.. THOSE damned Brits could drink brother, and walk away when us American's forgot we even had legs.. lol

Cheers..

lol i like it tudorp

just down the road from me at baggington airport (coventry) there is a vulcan bomber on display you pay a pound and you can go inside with a guide HOW THE HELL THEY FLEW THEM I NEVER KNOW the windows were next to useless and then they had a screen thing that dropped down in the event of a atomic blast so the windows would of shut off compleatly

they had to take off and land by instruments only !! and there is a cool periscope thing that looks backwards out the bottom of the plane i think it was a bomb sight but could be wrong been a while since ive been there i might go soon and get some pics to share with you guys

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Tudorp15

Foz... Why were they calling you a British cigarette?

lol

Hahahaha, i have no idea mate


Your online, lets fly!

[dazz1971]

some xbox live quotes ive had thrown at me by mainly teenage americans
you brits drink tea!!! ER NO I CANT STAND THE STUFF !!!
you brits all have bad teeth !! AGAIN I HAVE EXCELENT DENTAL HYGINE !!

You brits lost the war of independance WHO CARES I LIVE IN ENGLAND NOT AMERICA ALSO YOU LOST THE VIETNAM WAR against a bunch f pajayma wearing third world villagers

we have the best army in the world !!! REALLY AND WHO TRAINS YOUR SPEC OPPS GUYS THEN ?? I TELL YA OUR SAS INSTRUCTORS !!

ALSO I LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THEM THAT AS THEY HAVE THE BEST AND MOST EQUIPPED ARMY IN THE WORLD HOW COME THEY DIDNT WIN THE VIETNAM CONFLICT ETC


BUT the most americans that are older and more mature have been some of the best guys ive met and ive had some great times on xbox live with

AND US BRITS ARE NO DIFFERENT OUR TEENAGES ARE JUST AS BAD AND IVE HEARD BRIT TEENAGERS THROW THE YOU YANKS ARE ALL OVERWEIGHT BURGER MUNCHERS CRAP TOO!!!!

THAT WHY I TEND TO STICK TO MORE MATURE GAMES LIKE ILL 2 ETC

[Doktorwzzerd]

Originally Posted by dazz1971

ALSO I LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THEM THAT AS THEY HAVE THE BEST AND MOST EQUIPPED ARMY IN THE WORLD HOW COME THEY DIDNT WIN THE VIETNAM CONFLICT ETC

Dude, didn't I just point out that we really won it? Sure South Vietnam fell to the communists a few years after we withdrew, but we got movies out of it like the Rambo series, the Deer Hunter, numerous episodes of Airwolf, Delta Force etc. Thats more than you guys ever got out of the War of Spanish Succession, so whos the real winner, I ask you?

But seriously, lets put aside the nationality issues and just think of this from the perspective that all of us are game players and BoP fans:

Waht would you guys think about high altitude bomber escort? Bear in mind that a lot of the planes in BoP are designed for peak performance over 12,000ft like the later 109s, the 190s the P-51s, later Spits etc. I think it would be really cool and different from whats already there, if done right.