BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle?

Na, also so weit rechts ist das Revi nicht, was du offensichtlich nicht verstehen willst, denn in der Tat ist die linke Kante genau in der Mitte des Cockpits. Es ist also anzunehmen, dass das rechte Auge genau durchs Revi schaut. Punkt.

And now back to English

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Und genau darin besteht dein Fehler: In der Annahme das rechte Auge würde quasi "perfekt" durch das revi schauen, also den vollen Kreis sehen. Das ist NICHT der Fall. Das habe ich selber erfahren.

[Thee_oddball]

I knew i was right..EVERYBODY is German..and when they get mad they drop the "other " language and speak German again till they cool down

S!

[Sauf]

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball

I knew i was right..EVERYBODY is German..and when they get mad they drop the "other " language and speak German again till they cool down

S!

Well better that than try and conquer the world

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Sauf

Well better that than try and conquer the world

I don't remember them trying to do that...I know there was some real estate "issues"...they Acquired some land and there was a dispute as to where the property line ended

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[Lixma]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

I have experienced it myself in a cockpit replica 1:1 with working REVI once. (109 artisanal replica).

You cannot compare sitting in a replica for an actual aircraft under field conditions. Under field conditions, in war, the Revi will be adjusted to suit whoever is flying the particular aircraft.

I am 173cm tall. Imagine I jump into a 109, fine-tune the gunsight so I get a clear image in my right eye as I look forward (just as the makers intended), and then jump out again.

Now imagine someone else hops in straight after, perhaps 190cm tall. He will be forced to stoop, bend over or lean in order to see the reticle. Because it was not adjusted for him.

So, he adjusts the sight to his preference and jumps out.

Now I jump back in and now I can't see the reticle without moving/leaning/Shift-F1ing myself into position.

If I get into a BMW-3 straight after a 150cm tall man has just got out, I will probably bash my knees on the wheel or fascia if I do not adjust the seat. But it would be wrong to claim that bruising one's knees is a known feature of the BMW-3 series. In a similar vein, if I go to the museum and jump in to the nearest 109 on display I would undoubtedly have to manoeuver my head in order to get a clear image of the reticle....because the Revi isn't adjusted for me. It's adjusted for someone else (probably no-one in particular).

OK, just a couple more things before the caffeine wears off.....

You mentioned the cramped nature of the cockpit. It's safe to say the 109's cockpit dimensions are legendarily claustrophobic. Therefore can you think of a worse idea than to install a gunsight into this aircraft that requires the pilot to start shifting about? I can't.

What possible advantage is it to install a gunsight in a high performance aircraft that requires the pilot to start leaning over just to be able to see the gun-sight? I can think of no advantages at all. None.

[Wolf_Rider]

Originally Posted by Sauf

Well better that than try and conquer the world

Originally Posted by Thee_oddball

I don't remember them trying to do that...I know there was some real estate "issues"...they Acquired some land and there was a dispute as to where the property line ended

S!

and something else about coal and keeping the trains on time

[Space Communist]

I would just like to post in disbelief that this thread has grown to 27 pages. Paradoxically I only add to this silliness by posting at all.

[LukeFF]

A long and good discussion on reflector sights:

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=17850

The basic principle of the reflector sight is as follows:

In the base of an upright tubular housing there is a light source. This is directed through an opaque glass plate on which is etched an aiming mark, or graticule. The image of the graticule is projected through the focal plane of a collimated lens, and reflected onto a glass screen mounted 45 degrees to the gunner's eye. This presents an aiming mark, usually a ring with a central dot on the reflector screen, giving the gunner a clear view of the target with the graticule pattern superimposed on it.

[KeBrAnTo]

Originally Posted by Space Communist

I would just like to post in disbelief that this thread has grown to 27 pages. Paradoxically I only add to this silliness by posting at all.

+1

Arcade boy who opened the post should have been ignored by the community straight away.