4.10 Official Release

[Seeker]

I'd say 6 DOF and a lack of four engined bombers plus the mere existence of Canon's map will keep the Mods servers populated.

Which is a shame; because that means there will still be compatibility problems and religious wars.

The argument that 6 DOF is not for all is completely specious, as has been pointed out, why not disable HOTAS and high end graphic cards? Nothing is "for all", there's no comunism in hardware marketing!

I'd have happily dropped all the nav aids and funky cruise missile bombs for a unified "scene".

[csThor]

It's not that difficult to understand why 6DOF is problematic. For once a number of cockpits would need a major makeover. And - just like Caspar said - we'd need to have a similar system (i.e. lean left/right) for non-TIR users. Not everyone has the 150€ for a little bit of electronics. We simmers are often accused of elitism, I suggest we don't prove that statement any more true, okay?

[Xallo]

I see the 4.10 as a pretty successful attempt to bringing the crowd alive again, like Falcon:AF did for the falcon community.. a few steps forward, a few steps back.. but a stable, common, platform.

I know FF 5.x, and the age of F4:AF got people sliding on in different directions, but that took a few years.

[JAMF]

Originally Posted by csThor

For once a number of cockpits would need a major makeover.

Cosmetics, which are not a deal-breaker. I doubt anyone with 6DoF will demand every bit be fixed. He will fly his favourite aircraft regardless of cosmetics.

By that backward reasoning, just like banning HOTAS use, the game should be limited to a fixed res and 4:3. I wouldn't be able to fly in 48:9.

Originally Posted by csThor

Not everyone has the 150€ for a little bit of electronics. We simmers are often accused of elitism, I suggest we don't prove that statement any more true, okay?

So no one has heard of the cheap/free alternatives called freetrack or FaceTrackNoIR? A webcam can be found dead cheap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXNSZJBJVMU

[Essobie]

You guys do know that Storms of War is going to have full 6DoF, right? Is that going to have some lean system for non-head tracking players? I seriously doubt it.

Yeah, some cockpits are going to have some faces not textured when seen from some angles, but I think given the fact we are all playing a flight sim from 9+ years ago I think aesthetics aren't the most important factor when playing.

And then of course others have already pointed out that there's plenty of other hardware advantages that are fully supported out of the box.

So yeah... There really isn't a reason to not have 6DoF, either in an official patch or having this or any future patches compatible with current 6DoF mods.

Was there an actual effort to disable the 6DoF mod in this patch, or was it just an accidental side effect? I'll point to the first paragraph again if you guys did this on purpose for no other reason than "Some people are poor and it isn't fair."

[Flanker35M]

S!

Built a FreeTrack device for less than 10€ and the software is free so hardly can talk about elitism there. In the "other version" I use to play has no problems with Bf109 and 6DOF if AHS rings a bell But I see the point, would require quite some amount of work to go through most of the cockpits for one feature.

Still..6DOF + proper wide screen support would be nice at some point

[Creelers]

I downloaded the mod, then installed it, now IL2 won't run

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by Essobie

Yeah, some cockpits are going to have some faces not textured when seen from some angles, but I think given the fact we are all playing a flight sim from 9+ years ago I think aesthetics aren't the most important factor when playing.

It's not just a matter of faces not being textured, it's a matter of them not being there at all. Big open gaps that IMO look very ugly. (I modeled the He 162 pit, so I know ).

[sanyimanó]

Hello TD!

Thank you for 4.10.

TS

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by Essobie

Was there an actual effort to disable the 6DoF mod in this patch,...?

Huh? Not at all! We are guilty only of one: we do not care about compatibility with 'the ones not to be discussed here'.

Creelers: I downloaded the mod, then installed it, now IL2 won't run

I suppose, you mean, you downloaded the 'patch', right?
As you call it 'mod', I further suppose, you are used to 'mods' and therefore didn't install the 'patch' over a clean 4.09m version of your game?