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Old 03-15-2012, 01:37 PM
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Been reading the comic series since it began in 2003. They strayed from the comic book storyline. I had a hard time getting into the characters because of preconceived notions. I see the two as seperate now and enjoy them both. It's more about human survival than zombies as the story unfolds. People are worse enemies than zombies. One thing that's pretty close to the comic is that none of the core characters are spared. People get killed off left and right and that keeps the show unpredictable. Dale and Sophia were suposed to die much later in the storyline and they kept Shane around a lot longer than in the comic. Also, Ricks son, Carl, killed Shane as a normal, non zombie, human being. Another thing that's not clear on the show is how/why people turn zombie. In the comic it's shown that everyone who dies, zombie bitten or not, returns from the dead unless decapitated or shot in the head. I recommend everyone who likes the show to read the comic also.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:48 PM
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Been reading the comic series since it began in 2003. They strayed from the comic book storyline. I had a hard time getting into the characters because of preconceived notions. I see the two as seperate now and enjoy them both. It's more about human survival than zombies as the story unfolds. People are worse enemies than zombies. One thing that's pretty close to the comic is that none of the core characters are spared. People get killed off left and right and that keeps the show unpredictable. Dale and Sophia were suposed to die much later in the storyline and they kept Shane around a lot longer than in the comic. Also, Ricks son, Carl, killed Shane as a normal, non zombie, human being. Another thing that's not clear on the show is how/why people turn zombie. In the comic it's shown that everyone who dies, zombie bitten or not, returns from the dead unless decapitated or shot in the head. I recommend everyone who likes the show to read the comic also.
According to the writer (who is also the creator of the comic/book) he didnt want to follow the books that close as everyone would know what to expect and where. He said if they die in the book they will amost certianly die in the show, but when and how is any ones guess. They are trying to keep it fresh so no one can predict what will happen next.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:36 PM
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My wife told to watch that one...I'll have to check it out
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:08 PM
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What was "sci-fi" about the last 2 episodes and what explanation was missing?

--Outlaw.

i dont want to spoil it, but overall, i think the scientific explanation given in the last 2 episodes (m ireally not sure if it was just in the last one tough) by that cliche "desperate scientis" characther, to be a joke, and nothing new / interesting at all.

either a story has a good mood and its nice to see for the killing, and doesnt try to come up with science to justify all things, or it simply as to be coherent (as in flashforward, who was completely impossible, yet coherent).

but this is my opinion, most of my friends didnt care for it, and kept on watching.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:10 PM
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Been reading the comic series since it began in 2003. They strayed from the comic book storyline. I had a hard time getting into the characters because of preconceived notions. I see the two as seperate now and enjoy them both. It's more about human survival than zombies as the story unfolds. People are worse enemies than zombies. One thing that's pretty close to the comic is that none of the core characters are spared. People get killed off left and right and that keeps the show unpredictable. Dale and Sophia were suposed to die much later in the storyline and they kept Shane around a lot longer than in the comic. Also, Ricks son, Carl, killed Shane as a normal, non zombie, human being. Another thing that's not clear on the show is how/why people turn zombie. In the comic it's shown that everyone who dies, zombie bitten or not, returns from the dead unless decapitated or shot in the head. I recommend everyone who likes the show to read the comic also.
Avast, here be spoilers!

I don't mind though, me and the missus watch this show almost religiously. Unfortunately she can't wait most of the time and reads as many spoilers as possible and gets too excited not to tell me, so I know everything that happens the week before it happens. The worst thing is, we get the episodes on Monday over here (they're on on a Sunday in the states), and whenever I come home on a Monday she's got a massive grin on her face, and all I have to do is say 'go on then' and I get an indepth desciption of the plot of this weeks episode before we've even seen it.

I really love the show though. Like people have said, the human element in it is great. It's nice that they don't all go around with ridiculous machineguns and rocket launchers that they 'found' (must have been one hell of a hunting store), although they never seem to run low on food or ammo. And from what the missus says, they have strayed from the comics, but it's a bit better for it I think, since it seems that they've made it much more believable than the comics sounded to me (based on the wikipedia summaries anyway ). It'll be interesting to see how they run series 3 though, since with all the deaths this season they're going to have to add new characters if they're going to keep the body count up, or unless the next series is the last.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:51 PM
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i dont want to spoil it, but overall, i think the scientific explanation given in the last 2 episodes (m ireally not sure if it was just in the last one tough) by that cliche "desperate scientis" characther, to be a joke, and nothing new / interesting at all.

either a story has a good mood and its nice to see for the killing, and doesnt try to come up with science to justify all things, or it simply as to be coherent (as in flashforward, who was completely impossible, yet coherent).

but this is my opinion, most of my friends didnt care for it, and kept on watching.
Ahhhhhh, I get it. We were thinking of different episodes. To me, the last episode of season 1 is the barn finale. That may not be technically correct though.

I do dislike the entire "living dead" concept myself". I prefer the "28 Days Later" or "I am Legend" concept where the "zombies" are simply diseased people. Dead people returning to life is kind of ridiculous, but, it is standard in the genre. I particularly hated the crawling torso in the beginning. Unless you go with the supernatural, muscle movement requires metabolism and that does not occur with the standard zombie formula.

Still, I can get over it as the rest of the show is interesting enough for me. I will read the graphic novel after the end of the show.

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Old 03-15-2012, 09:43 PM
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Ahhhhhh, I get it. We were thinking of different episodes. To me, the last episode of season 1 is the barn finale. That may not be technically correct though.

I do dislike the entire "living dead" concept myself". I prefer the "28 Days Later" or "I am Legend" concept where the "zombies" are simply diseased people. Dead people returning to life is kind of ridiculous, but, it is standard in the genre. I particularly hated the crawling torso in the beginning. Unless you go with the supernatural, muscle movement requires metabolism and that does not occur with the standard zombie formula.

Still, I can get over it as the rest of the show is interesting enough for me. I will read the graphic novel after the end of the show.

--Outlaw.
The barn scene is the end of season 2 part 1 (it was split in to two parts).

I agree with you on the 28 Days Later bit though, that's really the only zombie film I've watched that's scared me in some respect because of how believable (and potentially real) it was. That, and the zombies could run, making them more of a threat than an 'oh no now I have to walk reasonably quickly in the other direction' inconvenience. The Walking Dead kind of zombies are really only a threat if you're standing still. Anyway, a bit of a spoiler (I'll put it in small text so people who don't want to see it/haven't figured it out don't accidently read it):

WARNING! HERE BE SPOILERS!!!




The whole point of the walking dead is that it is a virus. Everyone has it, which is why it's the 'walking dead', since the ones left alive are the walking dead, not the zombies themselves. That's apparently (according to 'experts' although I think it's that way in the comic) what Jenner tells Rick at the end of series 1. The whole point of the virus is that it makes you 're-animate' after you die, which is why Shane turned when he hadn't been bitten, there were the zombie cops without bites at the school and there was the zombie hanging from the tree. I suppose it's kind of realistic in that sense, in that it is a virus, but still not really.




At least, that's what the missus tells me anyway, based on the comics plus what a few people who have spent a lot of time thinking about these things have figured out.

EDIT: Ok, text not as small as I hoped it'd be.

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Old 03-15-2012, 10:44 PM
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I watch every episode and I'm looking forward to the season finale Sunday!
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:01 PM
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Just finished downloading and watching the seson finale and Woot! What an ending! Can't wait for seson 3!

Don't want to slip in any spoilers but the main fight was a bit like the good old days spot lighting for bunnies up at the farm!
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:29 AM
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Just saw the series finale last night. I have to say it was very good, but without giving too much away, I was a bit disapointed in the new character they introduced. I knew them from the comics and I can't really see them fitting in to the show as they're a bit too 'comic-booky' and the show seems to be based more around (relative) realism. We'll have to see how they play it in the next season though. Can't wait!
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