King`s Bounty: Warriors of the North announced

[Fatt_Shade]

@Mandea : pls tell me your not thinking on that piece of crap on facebook !!!

[jamotide]

Originally Posted by Ryder

Whilst I am very very pleased with this announcement surely after 3 games with the same engine it is time for something completely new. You've got the most out of KB:TL, now it's time for an overhaul.

I want KB2 please.

Why, I can't get enough of KB as it is, overhaul has potential for desaster, so I really like the way they are going with these new releases. The engine is good, what do you want to overhaul?

[pcbun]

KB UI design is nice, but a new design UI please.

[Darkeonz]

Ohhh woohoo! this is awesome. Can't wait . looks like a bigger expansion then crossroads. I've been anticipating news.

Also looks like there's 5 new achievements to help you in your battles! awesome, i loved that aspect of armored princess

[Fatt_Shade]

Yea i like there are more achievements, but i`m also hoping they make them different between hero classes. In AP/CW there are 8 same medals for all classes, and only 2 different for each so no much variety in getting medals, you have to spam 400 for guardian angel, 600 for fire mage . . . It would be nice to have something like warrior medal for crit on special abilities(or bonus dmg for them any way since high crit% alsmot no1 use unit talents because they make lower dmg then normal attack), higher physical dmg medal. paladin higher resurrection medal (for those with no runes for class skill), bonus for stone skin/magic well and similar beneficial spells medal . . . mage spell specific medals (this i saw in homm3_babies mod for tL from Mattcaspermeyer) longer fear/blind/hex/doom medal, or lowering enemy fire/magic/astral resistance medal( i made it in red sands mod, and it work great replaced old fire mage). . .
Or making medal advancement by choice : like with rage psirits/pet dragon when lvl up medal you get to pick between 2 things and that makes difference later on. You either want stronger dmg spells, or support. lower enemy ress or higher ally etc . . .
With achievement they can make anything possible but making them different between classes would be great in making much more possible builds/playthrough for players and it takes only changed couple .txt files not even 1 day work for experienced programer

[Nitelite]

Very exciting news. I am a huge fan of this franchise and eagerly await the next installment!

[rickah88]

So Spring 2012 actually means mid-2013 for the US disc release?

[Mygaffer]

Sooooo excited about this. When I heard they were ditching this series, which has been so successful for them, and trying to release an MMO, a field that is nothing if not overcrowded and 2012 has several great looking MMO's slated for release, it never made any sense to me that they would be releasing an MMO.

I will certainly be buying this day one.

[Rah]

North Warriors is a great news

I would like to see a new multi-level campaign. What I mean is a single campaign as the ArmoredPrincess campaign or the first one, but with the option to start at different locations with different races and this would affect the quests, the story (in some degree) - like you are helping your race to win against the others in some world threatening events and decide the outcome.

I would like to see some skills affecting the creatures skills like in the first KB, but fixed (I remember that when you unlock some skill, it was unlocked for neutral enemies as well - maybe this was fixed with the latest patch but I haven't played that part so much as AP, so I cant tell).

I definitely don't want to see the micromanagement cut or simplified as some readers here suggested - see what happened to Heroes 6, it is a disaster and definitely a grand mistake, so please devs, keep this in mind, I already have thrown in the bin the latest spawn of a once great game (HMM) - not only for this reason but this counts as well. Leave the running around for buying creatures as it was. Don't make the game predictable and too easy and straightforward!

Create three-four destiny points in the main quests so you can have different game-end. Dont play with good-bad finals but something more interesting as pushing the world in this or that direction (and you can use this in an expansion as starting points, like a finale where the elves are enslaved and they fight vs. demons for freedom, or a world where the magic is banned, or a world with almost extinguished lizards, or a world which is too much order and no fun controlled by humans etc.)

As for the dragon/spirit/Valkyrie since it is only one spirit give it several directions for development, like stage 1, where you have to choose between might and magic, stage 2, where you have to choose between order and chaos - in this way you can deal with the longevity and the desire of the players to try different options - keep the spirit independent from the hero classes - three hero classes with order/might, chaos/might, order/magic and chaos/magic spirit gives you many choices and play-styles. I remember how fun it was playing with 4 different spirits. And you can do this with only 2 variables and a little imagination

Invent at least one more resource for buying creatures, possible 4. If you use one, you can earn it after fighting level 5 creatures to buy level 5 creatures and from main quests. When the player is out of it, s/he has to play again with 1-4 level creatures and again try different play-styles, not using only dragons for example. If there are 4 main resources, they could be used for creatures from different races and again you are giving more options.

In the first KB I liked the idea of gaining different noble titles but this had no effect on the game. You can use this in a way desired from many players here, and this is the idea for OWN castle, which the hero can rule and build. Each title gained gives you the opportunity to upgrade it and built some dwelling. I don't know if this is not in collision with the copyright and if you are allowed to move so closely to Heroes of Might and Magic, but if there is no problem, you can implement this idea. Each title will give you the right to build a dwelling of the next level, mage guild with researched spells, teleport to the castle, marketplace/artifact merchant. There could be side-quests like random notice from the game that the castle is attacked and you have to return to it, for a random fight against a hero/army.

What about creatures items? Every stack could equip one item and it alone would be effected by its special properties, not the whole army. Or you could equip the stacks with one potion to be used on that stack in the battle - only one again.

There are so many other ways to improve the game. You can fix Necro for example. What I mean is that it lacks (at the moment) the sinergy between units. Actually many other races lack this, but in Necro this is very obvious. Skellies are OK, Zombies - not, I dont think someone uses them in their own army, the two ghosts are pain in the ass when oversizing, vampires are strange with no life drain in human form and as bats they are not interesting (atleast for me) - play a little bit with numbers giving vampires life drain, remove the no-retaliation and instead of that give them unlimited retaliation - I tried this in a self-created mod and the results were very satisfiting both playing with and against them, give the Liches cloud attack properties to heal adj. friendly undead (they are supposed to do that and to help other lesser undead) etc. Remove the oversizing possibility for ghosts and because they are spectral units, give them chilling attack which makes the blood of all living creatures freeze or because they inflict fear-effect on their minds, next attack in the same turn from other undead is more powerful - this is one way to create synergy between units, or make all zombies taunt enemy attacks in some distance and give the liches the ability to resurrect into no-life all lvl1 and lvl2 undead (skellis and zombies), again you have synergy here.

And all lvl 5 units could have some auras depending on their aligment. This is another option to improve the tactic side on the battlefield. These auras could be improved by some hero-skills...

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@Rah Some nice ideas, but some arent much useful :
1) starting campaign in different locations with different army not doable i think. it would be better to make spawning enemy army depending of game time, so when you get back to some location you can try out new units/skills/items you acquired so far. So making limited enemy/battles is not interesting.
2) Changing skills-units is not big problem, it can be modded easy by players here on forum. What we need from game developers is campaign,islands, and good functioning editor.
3) Bigger difference between hero classes would be nice, because so far in all KB games i played only difference between warrior/mage was leadership/spell dmg. Same skills/medals/items available . . . too monotonous
4) New resources nice idea, but in HoMM we had many resources but no lds limiter, here we have only gold but every hero is limited heavily by lds and units available to lead.
5) Hero titles, and owning castle not bad, but where to place it and how to control what happens there . . . This is turn based tactical strategy game, i dont think managing castle would go with it. We play with what we have at disposal, not what we would want to have in inventory
6) Creature items, not good idea. Look red sands mod for CW, there is unit exp system which give great new play style, so no need for unit items if game developers take that for new WotN.
7) Like i said changing individual skill or unit abilities or passive unit talents is doable after game get out, and players get their ideas about how to fix what developers missed
Just hurry up, and get it to market already