How are sales going?

[Heliocon]

The niche however in Euro+US is more than big enough to support this title since there is pretty much no competition (ROF is the exception but its also prob a even smaller niche than ww2). Paradox started and has many of the most niche games I have ever seen, they have been a big success too.

It may be a small % of gamers, but because of the pure market size its enough for the game+growth. However most people are probably not buying now due to the games state, I know people who are saying: "Well its not getting fixed any time soon, will have a look at it during december winter break and see if it looks decent then, but for now its not worth the effort."

If I had not bought the game I would tend to agree...

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by yellonet

Yes, it doesn't feel like the game has sold very much, but then again, simulations seldom do.
I believe however that as patches are released and the sim becomes more and more complete sales will start to increase.
The IL-2 fanbase should be quite large but many of them likely haven't picked up CloD yet due to either getting an (IMO false) impression that it is not an enjoyable product, or they are simply waiting for another part in the series.

Nah. Actually the game has too many bugs and people that wanted the game know that. Il-2 community is rather big. Few of them switched over to COD, simply because they don't want the hassle.

If the game worked right when it was released, you would see 600 people online every day, not 20.
I like Cliffs of Dover, I play and suport it since the day it came in Europe, but saying "the game works just fine" is just baloney.

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

I like Cliffs of Dover, I play and suport it since the day it came in Europe, but saying "the game works just fine" is just baloney.

Agreed!!! As a SP player I have been waiting patiently for AI fix and radio command fix (more depth to the campaign system would be nice too) and I have supported the title by purchasing it... but... I wouldn't say the game works fine (soon, hopefully).

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

but saying "the game works just fine" is just baloney.

Then it is good I did not

[ReconNZ]

Yeah I fly with an IL2 squad in Aussie, there are about 15 regular flyers in the squad, of them only 5 or 6 have CloD, and none of us play it much.

We are all waiting for the next couple of patches to see what they can come up with. MP stability is the key driver, plus there is a perception in the squad that people will have to upgrade their PCs, so they want to wait for CloD to get better first before they do.

Personally I think the lack of communication lately from Luthier is the worst thing that could have happened - I personally am less engaged with this community now because I feel that if the devs cant even stick with a regular friday update, I may as well move on to playing something else and check back in a couple of months. I'm sure that doesn'r matter much, but it does mean I've stopped promoting the game to my squad mates for one thing.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by yellonet

The IL-2 fanbase should be quite large but many of them likely haven't picked up CloD yet due to either getting an (IMO false) impression that it is not an enjoyable product, or they are simply waiting for another part in the series.

BS, it's an an topic all the time on the servers.
Problem is: Those ppl on the servers dont give a sh.t about single player(and cod only works in single player) - and mp still sux.

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by swiss

and cod only works in single player

As a SP pilot, I thought CloD only worked in MP..

[swiss]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

As a SP pilot, I thought CloD only worked in MP..

Ok, I admit that was hear-say.

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by swiss

BS, it's an an topic all the time on the servers.
Problem is: Those ppl on the servers dont give a sh.t about single player(and cod only works in single player) - and mp still sux.

How is what I said BS? And why the hostile tone?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by yellonet

How is what I said BS? And why the hostile tone?

huh? hostile?
see below.