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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-11-2011, 09:29 AM
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Most people see a game as a game, not a 50hour a week learning experience.
Very true, and a major reason why simulators of all types can never compete with arcade games in terms of sales.

But having said that, no game I've played has immersed me like Il-2, GTR etc.
Very few games last more than a week or maybe two on my drive; a sim can last years.

In short, I'm glad there are developers who still make simulators.
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:30 PM
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I don't know any Americans that play or have heard of the IL-2 series.
I'm from the UK but I made a very close good friend in the USA from our mutual love of il2 (and Frank Zappa, as it happens). I dont think Battle of Britain is as high on americans' list as say europeans', simply because its not, for the most part, part of their history. I'm sure if it were Korea or even a re-run of the Pacific theatre, or mediteranean theatre then interest would be far higher.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:45 AM
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I'm from the UK but I made a very close good friend in the USA from our mutual love of il2 (and Frank Zappa, as it happens). I dont think Battle of Britain is as high on americans' list as say europeans', simply because its not, for the most part, part of their history. I'm sure if it were Korea or even a re-run of the Pacific theatre, or mediteranean theatre then interest would be far higher.
Your probably right about BOB having a higher interest among Europeans then US since its a direct part of European history. But I do think that the Sim could do well in the US if it was properly marketed. First I think that the whole WW2 combat flight Sim gaming has to be better intoduced to US gamers and they need to see the incredible immersion that's possible with IL-2:COD. It's an incredible story and it was all true-- Britain fighting for her existance, Luftwaffe going for the knockout punch, young warrier pilots jousting in the sky to the death, great fighter aircraft, hundreds of bombers-- everything done with the latest attention to detail, accuracy and atmospherics. Gamers just need to see some trailers. Part of the solution would be an easier out of the box setup for the SIM controllers- it shouldn't take hours to set up. Also needed is less then $100 HOTAS that is reliable and just works. This keeps a lot of people away from serious flight sims.
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:34 AM
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I'm from the UK but I made a very close good friend in the USA from our mutual love of il2 (and Frank Zappa, as it happens). I dont think Battle of Britain is as high on americans' list as say europeans', simply because its not, for the most part, part of their history. I'm sure if it were Korea or even a re-run of the Pacific theatre, or mediteranean theatre then interest would be far higher.
Korea is kinda not the big at all here haha. Pacific theater for sure would be bigger. The BoB was before Americas involvement so we have no history there. But the Mediterranean and Pacific we do. I would be interested in a Korean sim though.
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:32 AM
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1+ for korean era
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:32 PM
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North America is not just the USA. There is a country north of the USA called Canada which is very interested in the BoB.

By far the largest number of defenders were British, but fighter pilots of many other nations flew with them, including some 80 Canadians. Of these, 26 were in the RCAF's No. 1 Squadron, which arrived soon after Dunkirk; 16 flew as a team in the RAF's 242 "Canadian" Squadron; the rest were scattered among a dozen other RAF squadrons. These last included men such as PO. Johnnie Bryson, an ex-Mountie; Flt. Lt. Johnnie Kent of Winnipeg, who flew with the Poles in 303 Squadron; and FO. W. H. Nelson, who served in 74 Squadron with the South African ace Adolph "Sailor" Malan. Another 200 Canadian airmen fought in RAF Bomber and Coastal commands, which throughout the battle pounded at German invasion ports and other targets; 27 of them gave their lives.
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:00 PM
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Actually North America is a smaller customer base (simmers) than Europe is. With first person shooters it's still the #1 market, but with something like CloD, Europe is the money-maker.
If you put this country and that country sure Europe has a market However if you put the pop of USA ( 311,529,000 ) people. Mexico (112,336,53 and Canada ( 34,480,000 ) close to 1/2 a billion people Compare that to England.Scotland,wales, Northern Ireland and ( 62,008,048 )

I use to player Fighter Ace online for 5 years ( 90%) of flyers spoke/typed english In my sqaudron we had 50 members New york, New orlens, Arizona Michigan, Canada: Me in Toronto and 1 in Vancouver, England scotland ausseland, and other squads were moslty the same with the odd russian or german or dutch player
Sadly the reason Fighter ace shut down in my own opinion was rather then listenning to paying customers on what over 50% wanted they added Korean war sever with jets ..Rather then adding a newer maps and better ideas
If your a true ww2 dogfight simmer picture 60 player flight of B-17's and 50 fighter planes and your squad in Lancasters spitfires and tempest and a few c-47's flying against 200 other online players in zeros, yaks, il-10's, 109's 190's ta 151, etc etc ...I'm telling you your knuckles are white and your right into the game .. you look at the clock and 3 hrs feel like 20 mins gone by...Thats what makes a great sim Keep whatever country you want happy and work on what makes it good even better others will join. Word will get out. Promise something and don't do it or change it into something diffrent from what you started a basis with and its doomed ..Fight ace and its jets was looked at as something diffrent and new.."NEW" wore off in weeks to come and was dead with in 6 months

What i would like to see in the future small maps ( we only used some of the map in single player and 90% is the same areas ) less loading and useage maybe Fps will be better and you could add more eye/ear candy with what you have

More online players per sever 200- 250
Its hard to think of adding planes or battles when all you have is 1 area and 1 year of the war time frame ..I would love to say north africa or Germany defence

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Old 06-09-2011, 11:08 PM
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I hope that shortly after the Battle of Moscow we will get the Pacific Theatre back.

I have no particular historic connection to this TOW due to my geographic location, but wow, HOW MUCH fun did I have playing online on the Zeke vs Wildcat server. It was so great, the best online experience on a constant basis that I ever had. I just loved to play the Midway mission (always on allied side of course as the F4 is such a great plane).
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