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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-25-2011, 03:21 AM
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Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.
1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Herman Goering
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:14 AM
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2. US of A,

We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Can you tell us the "name" that the literature and news reports of 1942 - 1945 used for "The Allies"?
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Old 04-25-2011, 05:44 AM
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2. US of A,

We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Ummm
"The year following the end of World War II, GE stood accused of criminal conspiracy with Krupp, a major German munitions firm. Their partnership artificially raised the cost of U.S. defense preparations while helping to subsidize Hitler’s rearmament of Germany. The arrangement continued even after Nazi tanks smashed into Poland."

"GM and Ford, through their subsidiaries, controlled 70 percent of the German automobile market when war broke out in 1939. Those companies “rapidly retooled themselves to become suppliers of war materiel to the Germany army,”

"A senior executive of General Motors also received a medal from Hitler"
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:22 PM
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2. US of A,

We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
You were, you did.

Not that there's anything wrong with that sort of thing, of course.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:26 AM
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We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Really? What exactly would the Germans have paid with? I seem to recall that the Americans rather liked gold and colonial possessions as payment, and the Germans had been rather short on both since about 1919, and especially short of the former since about 1930. Indeed, had they not been, it's arguable that they might not have elected Hitler and started another war in the first place...

I was going to write down a list of Allies in 1940, but listing the various components of the Empire would have been tedious, and listing the rest of the Allies would have probably worn out the "F" "r" and "e" keys on my keyboard. So I won't.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:41 AM
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[QUOTE=baronWastelan;272720]Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Poles
3. Norway
4. Free French
5. Tchecoslovakia
6. Netherland
7. Luxembourg
8. USA

It's not because your country got invaded that all forces of that country stopped fighting against the common enemy. A lot of volunteers from other nations helped Britain to go on and survive during the BoB. Help was small in size, but huge regarding personnal investment of all those freedom fighters.

Of course, Britain held the last effort after the german invaded every other ally on the continent, but hey, without the channel, the RAF would have had tanks on their runways too.

Remember that it took nearly 5 more years to defeat the german, and roughly 25 to 30 million of more casualties...
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:53 AM
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Why not Axis and Allies?
This has always kinda bothered me, since it makes me think more about Halo, Team Fortress 2 or somekind of arcade teambased game..

Also, if you take the colours of the allied flags and roundels into account, they're blue/red/white..

While the axis has red/white/black.. So it would make more sense for the axis to be the red team, and allies be the blue team..

Please, for the sake of immersion, get rid of this whole blue/red team deal and called them axis and allies.
because, in 2001 this sim call it Forgotten Battles: Russia (RED) Vs. Germany (Blue). catch it? it means red are the bad guys and blue the good
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Some people couldn't make up their mind on which side they were on.
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because, in 2001 this sim call it Forgotten Battles: Russia (RED) Vs. Germany (Blue). catch it?
In 2001 this sim are only "IL-2 Sturmovik".

Forgotten Battles expansion come in 2003: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_St...8video_game%29



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Old 04-25-2011, 05:04 AM
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Red colour is always mean "friend" is Russia. Nazi, tommy, yankee and other enemies is blue. But for political correctness, England forces in this game is red. You should be proud of.
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