Shame on you for using STEAM !

[Specht]

Thank you VERY MUCH for using Steam, this makes my life much easier in many ways.

One: I don't have to wait until the game gets released in my country.

Two: I pay a much better price on Steam than buying boxes in my country.

Three: Steam is a fantastic platform.

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Specht

Thank you VERY MUCH for using Steam, this makes my life much easier in many ways.

One: I don't have to wait until the game gets released in my country.

Two: I pay a much better price on Steam than buying boxes in my country.

Three: Steam is a fantastic platform.

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

[Specht]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

Oh bugger...

[Defender]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

But the game is not for sale on Steam apparently...

It probably will be available on Steam, it will be some time after release though once Ubi can cash in on it's initial investment.

[zauii]

On the whole server browser thingy, we've no idea yet if Oleg is utilizing his own or not, Ubi message is way too blurry.
The game will have an in-game server browser that's pretty much a given, if it will utilize steam technology we'll see.

Steam works just fine, its a great platform imo.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by jimbop

I love the thread tags! I'm waiting for the steam version before I order - much prefer the DL versions over boxed. Most people don't understand that even if you buy a physical copy of a piece of software you are usually just buying rights to run it, not buying the software itself.

Anyway, that's my understanding and even if I'm wrong there are far more important things for me to worry about!

That's against EU consumer laws so it doesn't apply to me. I don't buy the rights to distribute or modify the software in a large scale but i do buy that single copy of it and not just a license.

If i'm just buying the license to use it and i somehow lose my discs, i should then be able to request and they should send me new discs since i still have the license, right? And Ubi would send me new discs out of the kindness of their hearts? Think about it for a second, there's a reason most EULAs won't fly in any consumer law court, especially since the "contract" is presented to you after you buy the product, open the box (which makes it non-refundable) and start the installer. If it was printed on the back of the game box it would probably carry more weight, but i guess if people could see what they often sign up for they would also buy less games

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

The main thing I have picked up from these threads is that steam users seem to be childish arrogant smug and generally a pain in the butt to try and discuss things with.

Which doesn't make playing online in a community full of steam users overly enticing

I wouldn't go that far, but some of them are in fact pushing it to the point of reminding me the "RoF can do no wrong" crowd of 2 years ago.
Incidentally, that was one of the main reasons i didn't pick that one up...limited amount of fans and servers when it was launched meant a high probability of crossing paths with a handful of very annoying people they had in that community

Originally Posted by Vyper

So why are you for forcing people to use it? Would you be for being forced to use AOL? All anyone posting so far is concerned about is the lack of getting a choice in the matter, when clearly steam isn't needed to perform multiplayer functionality yet the rumblings are saying it will be required to do so. (And begs to question how dedicated servers will work in that situation).

The funny part, as you put it...is that some of us have had this off and on and off again relationship with steam/valve for over 12 years. There isn't anything to understand, so your point is moot.

Limiting choices and creating control bases in favor of companies like valve are not good for the gaming community as a whole. It is not good for any business market.

Exactly. Those of you who want to go with Steam, by all means do so. Just don't force your opinion on the rest.

I mean, we're not all bashing Steam and it would be a good thing for advertising and mass market appeal for CoD, i'll give you that. So is scalable difficulty but the game doesn't default to any common denominator, it gives all of you options to do what you want with your gameplay sessions. Why should installation be any different?

My point is i don't hate Steam, but what the hell is all this zealotry about? All this "take it or leave it" attitude is sure not making steam any friends, neither does the "deal with it" commentary expressed by a few posters.

Sure, one might tolerate it to play a game he's been expecting for years but doesn't have to like it and if one is forced to use it, then you're going to keep hearing about it until he's given an option to disable it. How about you deal with that?

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

My point is i don't hate Steam, but what the hell is all this zealotry about? All this "take it or leave it" attitude is sure not making steam any friends, neither does the "deal with it" commentary expressed by a few posters.

The opinions on both sides are just as extreme, though, yours not least. I don't even have Steam installed on my machine at the moment, and haven't done for the last couple of years probably, but it's just baffling to many of us who have encountered it that anyone could boycott the only game that's really likely to keep the WWII sim market alive because of the same sort of logic that would have them shivering in the cold because they were frightened of paying a power company who could potentially monitor their usage. I don't MIND whether the game uses Steam or not, it's just this sort of discussion that will cause a fuss just for the sake of causing a fuss and potentially blight the game's launch with negative rumours for no reason at all. If you don't want to buy the game because it uses Steam, at least don't go around posting disinformation and vague negative rumours about the service it provides (this last is not aimed at you Blackdog).

[Luftrofl]

Originally Posted by TheGrunch

The opinions on both sides are just as extreme, though, yours not least. I don't even have Steam installed on my machine at the moment, and haven't done for the last couple of years probably, but it's just baffling to many of us who have encountered it that anyone could boycott the only game that's really likely to keep the WWII sim market alive because of the same sort of logic that would have them shivering in the cold because they were frightened of paying a power company who could potentially monitor their usage. I don't MIND whether the game uses Steam or not, it's just this sort of discussion that will cause a fuss just for the sake of causing a fuss and potentially blight the game's launch with negative rumours for no reason at all. If you don't want to buy the game because it uses Steam, at least don't go around posting disinformation and vague negative rumours about the service it provides (this last is not aimed at you Blackdog).

That is exactly it. Most of the opposition I've seen has been based on "facts" that just aren't true. I assume Oleg has some reason for doing this and instead of posting random make believe reasons Steam is bad, I'll wait to see what his reason is. Only after hearing from him can it be truly decided if this is a good decision or not.

[addman]

If the game case isn't recyclable I ain't buying it.

[Biggs]

Originally Posted by addman

If the game case isn't recyclable I ain't buying it.