Post made by Jason at Sim HQ

Originally Posted by winny

Jeez, it's just a game.

No. Its a porked game I purchased for 45 bucks and cant play, which was btw, available for just 15 bucks.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

No. Its a porked game I purchased for 45 bucks and cant play, which was btw, available for just 15 bucks.

What a hoot, statements like yours are like...

I can't walk to town any more, yet you don't tell anyone you don't have any legs.

You don't help your image when you make unqualified statements.

It is not a porked game...

Go here and watch this video

http://www.avsims.com/cfsim/content/...ain-kanalkampf

Follow up with this video

http://www.avsims.com/cfsim/content/day-adlertag

You just have problems and until you decide to deal with them, they aren't going to fix with rants and whines.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

No. Its a porked game I purchased for 45 bucks and cant play, which was btw, available for just 15 bucks.

No, it's still just a game.

And my comment was in context, not standalone.

You have a very simple choice, wait, or walk away and chalk it up to experience. No ammount of bitching will change what happened.

I guess your reaction to disappointment is just a little bit more extreme than mine. I don't get it.

[robtek]

To wallow in self-pity, comes to mind.

[Codex]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

You just have problems and until you decide to deal with them, they aren't going to fix with rants and whines.

With all due respect to you nearmiss this is exactly what most of us are whining about. The fact the we, the paying customer, have to try and "fix" the issues as best we can (in my case 15 or so hours) and still getting a less than acceptable experience.

Re: making qualified statements. Aren't we qualified? Because we're the ones having to deal with the current state of this sim. We're the ones who take the time to use this sim and want to get the most out of it. We're the ones that want this sim to work as much as anyone in the Dev team, and we're the one's who are being targeted to buy it. I can appreciate that there are some who will just whine for the sake of it, but I for one have been a strong supporter of this series and I'm not referring to how many posts I've made here or on UBIZoo, but by my wallet, and I'm getting close to being so fed up it's not funny anymore.

As I said previously, I'm praying that Illya delivers on what he said in his last update, and I'm not expecting more than that. If some reason something can't be delivered, then for god sake tell us. I'm sure he'll deliver, but remember there's only so much people are willing to put up with, especially after having given our money.

I understand the pressures on the dev team and I commend IIlya for taking the sim to the point it's at right now, but I'd like to point out that at the end of the day who's the one's really funding all this? 1C / Ubi? No it's the Joe's (like you and me) on the street, so I think it's time for some perspective and a little Friday update wouldn't hurt.

I feel for you mods I really do, but remember there are some legitimate people out there, with a passion for this series who are wanting nothing more than some news or progress reports.

[TUSA/TX-Gunslinger]

- Post edited.

- Reason: "Do no harm". It's all been covered by someone somewhere.

Summary:

I really wish Jason had not posted what he did. He helped no one. He did damage.

I continue to have full confidence in Luthier and 1C, due to:

- my experience with Rise of Flight and it's initial release and development
- my experience with 1C/Maddox Games and all the products I've purchased in the past
- state of technology contained within Cliff's of Dover

S!

Gunny

[nearmiss]

Codex

There really isn't anything to say.

Luthier responded and gave us information that sounds good to me.

We still get assurances and patches. I don't know if you were around during IL2 days before Forgotten Battles. Yipes what a trip that was, and for every add on and patch thereafter.

Try to look on the bright side, it's cheerier there.

[Blackdog_kt]

TheShark: You're not going to get a ban for stating an opinion. You'd simply be getting a warning for something that any other user would. Rules apply equally to everyone and that includes you, me or anybody else here.

Originally Posted by Codex

With all due respect to you nearmiss this is exactly what most of us are whining about. The fact the we, the paying customer, have to try and "fix" the issues as best we can (in my case 15 or so hours) and still getting a less than acceptable experience.

Re: making qualified statements. Aren't we qualified? Because we're the ones having to deal with the current state of this sim. We're the ones who take the time to use this sim and want to get the most out of it. We're the ones that want this sim to work as much as anyone in the Dev team, and we're the one's who are being targeted to buy it. I can appreciate that there are some who will just whine for the sake of it, but I for one have been a strong supporter of this series and I'm not referring to how many posts I've made here or on UBIZoo, but by my wallet, and I'm getting close to being so fed up it's not funny anymore.

As I said previously, I'm praying that Illya delivers on what he said in his last update, and I'm not expecting more than that. If some reason something can't be delivered, then for god sake tell us. I'm sure he'll deliver, but remember there's only so much people are willing to put up with, especially after having given our money.

I understand the pressures on the dev team and I commend IIlya for taking the sim to the point it's at right now, but I'd like to point out that at the end of the day who's the one's really funding all this? 1C / Ubi? No it's the Joe's (like you and me) on the street, so I think it's time for some perspective and a little Friday update wouldn't hurt.

I feel for you mods I really do, but remember there are some legitimate people out there, with a passion for this series who are wanting nothing more than some news or progress reports.

Depends on how one says things. Your post=valid, even though i disagree in some points.

Tvrdi's posts on the other hand have simply been venting "i wasted $50 on this" outbursts ever since the release: it's the same thing over and over and an opinion not shared by everyone, so when trying to present opinion as definitive fact it gets tiresome. It's his opinion and shared by some people, but not everybody's opinion.

Tvrdi: If you can get a refund do it mate. If you can't afford to waste money on PC games wait for the review next time. Just please, stop doing our head in with your personal horror story. You did the exact same thing with RoF back in the day: initial over-enthusiasm followed by crashing and burning disappointment, then two years later RoF is fixed and you praise it. Learn something from your past experience and don't repeat the same thing with CoD

[Codex]

@nearmiss, I will mate. I always remind myself of Monty Python's the "Life of Brian" ...

@anyone. It's good to get things off your chest every now and then, but keep it in perspective.

Cheers,
Codex

The new patch looks very very promising, the sound of that 109 is impressive.