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Old 06-13-2012, 02:37 AM
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Default Diesel exhausts do cause cancer, says WHO

Incidentally Porsche never jumped on the rotten stinking diesel bandwagon...

12 June 2012 Last updated at 17:08 ET

Diesel exhausts do cause cancer, says WHO
By James Gallagher Health and science reporter, BBC News

The World Health Organization previously labelled diesel exhausts as probably carcinogenic

Exhaust fumes from diesel engines do cause cancer, a panel of experts working for the World Health Organization says.

It concluded that the exhausts were definitely a cause of lung cancer and may also cause tumours in the bladder.

It based the findings on research in high-risk workers such as miners, railway workers and truck drivers.

However, the panel said everyone should try to reduce their exposure to diesel exhaust fumes.

The International Agency for Research on Cancer, a part of the World Health Organization, had previously labelled diesel exhausts as probably carcinogenic to humans.

IARC has now labelled exhausts as a definite cause of cancer, although it does not compare how risky different carcinogens are. Diesel exhausts are now in the same group as carcinogens ranging from wood chippings to plutonium and sunlight to alcohol.

It is thought people working in at-risk industries have about a 40% increased risk of developing lung cancer.

Dr Christopher Portier, who led the assessment, said: "The scientific evidence was compelling and the Working Group's conclusion was unanimous, diesel engine exhaust causes lung cancer in humans.

"Given the additional health impacts from diesel particulates, exposure to this mixture of chemicals should be reduced worldwide."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18415532
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:21 AM
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Of course it does.
In fact, we should all just go back to dwelling in trees in Africa, totally remove any technology and go back to our roots.
Im so sick of these types.

But thanks OP, very interesting information indeed.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:53 AM
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I stood in front of a stinking Porsche diesel last weekend, but I take it you don't count that one as a Porsche

I do dislike those stinking small diesels driving around. And the sound makes my ears bleed. They should get rid of those as they don't serve any purpose here except for tax evasion, but what about trucks and trains, they can't live without diesel (yet), and adding even more taxes on the diesel fuel isn't helping anyone either. We still need transport, more dilemmas...

There is 100% Bio-diesel around, but not near enough for total conversion, and a lot of people might starve as well.

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Old 06-13-2012, 10:09 AM
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Its all relative. Are the diesel emmissons more or less or equally likely to cause cancer to gasoline?

Diesels are generally more efficient, so per kilometer they have less emissions than petrol. So that has to be good right?

What isn't there to love about diesels, you change the oil, drive them within their specifications and they go for ever. Pitty the fuel is so expensive where I live.

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Old 06-13-2012, 10:13 AM
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What isn't there to love about diesels!
Hundreds of motorcyclists who've crashed due to spillages/leaks would say 'quite a bit, actually!'.
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:56 AM
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Hundreds of motorcyclists who've crashed due to spillages/leaks would say 'quite a bit, actually!'.
Sounds more like bad engeneering.

What the topic poster looks for is a fine particle filter. Problem solved.
Heavens, what some people here complain about all the time. When you find a problem, you fix it. Instead reactions here are "Bohoo, ppl want to ruin my life!". Pathethic.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:05 PM
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Hundreds of motorcyclists who've crashed due to spillages/leaks would say 'quite a bit, actually!'.
Hmmm, I've been driving motor cycles (and other vehicles including Diesel 4WD's) for thirty something years, I can't say diesel spills have been something I've noticed or worried about too much in my nick of the woods. Do you mean at petrol stations around the Diesel bowser?

Then again when I'm on my bike I might be too preoccupied with all the wallies hooning about in their cars trying to kill ME to notice?
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Of course it does.
In fact, we should all just go back to dwelling in trees in Africa, totally remove any technology and go back to our roots.
Im so sick of these types.
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Or maybe, you could just try to improve your technology.

But that would be to "progressive", I suppose.
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But that would be to "progressive", I suppose.

First step in doing so is to correct the lib definition of progress
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