Man Made Global Warming

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

I don't speak the language. You should at least speak the language of the country you move to its only respectful. Besides, I get sun burned easily.

You can learn it.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by RedToo

Speaking of overwhelming scientific consesus, it wasn't long ago that the overwhelming scientific consensus was that plate tectonics was nonsense.

What is lacking in the global warming debate is data, plain and simple.

RedToo.

Actually, the data is overwhelming. The planet definitely warming.

If scientists find that global warming is nonsense, then our policies should change in the same manner as they did with plate tectonics.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

But none are happening at the moment. The driving force at the moment appears to be the result of huge amounts of CO2 being released into the atmosphere. Do you have any idea who, or what, might be doing that right now?

Volcanoes?

Originally Posted by RedToo

Speaking of overwhelming scientific consesus, it wasn't long ago that the overwhelming scientific consensus was that plate tectonics was nonsense.

What is lacking in the global warming debate is data, plain and simple.

RedToo.

...and why is there no data? Surely to prove some scientific you need lots of data from different sources which are all releated?

[BaronBonBaron]

"A team of scientists led by geochemist Zunli Lu from Syracuse University in New York state, has found that contrary to the ‘consensus’, the ‘Medieval Warm Period’ approximately 500 to 1,000 years ago wasn’t just confined to Europe.


In fact, it extended all the way down to Antarctica – which means that the Earth has already experience global warming without the aid of human CO2 emissions."

http://thegwpf.org/science-news/5306...new-study.html


Note that I'm not saying the planet isn't warming right now.
My question is: Is their proof that the current 'warming trend' is caused by human activity, and not something that happened naturally like the ‘Medieval Warm Period’?

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Actually, the data is overwhelming. The planet definitely warming.

If scientists find that global warming is nonsense, then our policies should change in the same manner as they did with plate tectonics.

Your mind restricts your thought possibilities

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Volcanoes?

Volcanoes can pump huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. They can also cool the planet in the short term by blasting lots of dust into the air.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Your mind restricts your thought possibilities

No, my mind is restricted by serious science. Do you ever consider why the stuff you're posting isn't taken seriously by real scientists?

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Volcanoes can pump huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. They can also cool the planet in the short term by blasting lots of dust into the air.

More than all of the man made sources put together according to the documentary i put up, which by the way was made by channel 4 and was aired very ealy in the morning, 03:00 Hrs if I recall... I remember having to stay up to watch it.

[Walshy]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Volcanoes can pump huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. They can also cool the planet in the short term by blasting lots of dust into the air.

Right so you'll admit then that we live in a complex system with checks and balances, which when roughly measured is of a slow fluctation over the course of millenia's. There are lot's of factors to measure into said cooling and raising of tempratures. It's far too complex for a fluid dynamics model. We have had cooling and raising of tempratures before and we will have them when we're no longer here on this planet as a species. The climate is rising from the the last "mini ice age" and will continue to warm until meets the "medieval warm period average". That the indrustrial revolution happened at the sametime of this warming has not been addressed by the so called climate experts you seem to know very well .....................................

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

More than all of the man made sources put together according to the documentary i put up, which by the way was made by channel 4 and was aired very ealy in the morning, 03:00 Hrs if I recall... I remember having to stay up to watch it.

That would be a great argument against humans being responsible, except that volcanic activity has not increased. So that ain't it.