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[Riceball]

Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?

[juz1]

Originally Posted by Riceball

Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?

+1

people today- you give em gold and they moan its just shiny yellow...

if people honestly want to compare bop to blazing angels then they obviously are frustrated at the lack of a decent groinal attachment for their PC...
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[LaRock O no Lie]

Originally Posted by Riceball

Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?

I bolded what I am replying to here....

Its not hate at all... the game is not easier with or without a flightstick... its the fact that not everyone likes the set controller settings programmed into the game... That includes the horrible deadzones that are programmed into the game that are proven to be due to the game and not the flightstick...

give me an ability to swap control sticks and then we can talk about using a controller.

[Riceball]

Originally Posted by LaRock O no Lie

I bolded what I am replying to here....

Its not hate at all... the game is not easier with or without a flightstick... its the fact that not everyone likes the set controller settings programmed into the game... That includes the horrible deadzones that are programmed into the game that are proven to be due to the game and not the flightstick...

give me an ability to swap control sticks and then we can talk about using a controller.

As long as you don't touch the sensitivity levels there is really no dead zone with a controller.

If there is no option to swap sticks in the first update, I do think it would be a mistake.

[LaRock O no Lie]

Originally Posted by Riceball

As long as you don't touch the sensitivity levels there is really no dead zone with a controller.

If there is no option to swap sticks in the first update, I do think it would be a mistake.

thats the issue.... no deadzone with the controller... but there is a programmed deadzone with the flightsticks... I am saying this from just reading on this site.. but people have said that their ace edge or av8tor have deadzones, yet if they plug it into a pc and run the calibration there is no deadzone, and you can clearly see precise movements.

I would much rather have to contend with a deadzone then having to re-teach my brain which hand should control aiming..... id say its southpaw, but thats false because in reality BOP is southpaw style compared to halo 3 controls... in halo 3 or any other FPS you aim with the right stick... yet in this game you aim with the left stick...

this just doesn't work right for me at all. its a chore to even fly in arcade mode with the controller settings... but thats why I bought an ace edge. Id rather contend with a deadzone until a patch then fly "backwards" for my brain.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by LaRock O no Lie

thats the issue.... no deadzone with the controller... but there is a programmed deadzone with the flightsticks... I am saying this from just reading on this site.. but people have said that their ace edge or av8tor have deadzones,

There is NO programmed deadzone in the game.
In fact, it is strictly prohibited by Microsoft TCRs (rules for submission all games).
However, Xbox360 ITSELF has deadzones for all controllers - internal.
Nothing here is in our power (or anyone's, except MS).

P.S. That's not a case on PS3.

[LaRock O no Lie]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

There is NO programmed deadzone in the game.
In fact, it is strictly prohibited by Microsoft TCRs (rules for submission all games).
However, Xbox360 ITSELF has deadzones for all controllers - internal.
Nothing here is in our power (or anyone's, except MS).

P.S. That's not a case on PS3.

So can you talk to MS and find out how to set the deadzones on the flightsticks? like you can do with the MS racing wheel in Forza 2?

I do not know how bad it might be, since I don't have the ace edge yet... but I know that you can adjust the "deadzone" with the MS wheel in both the racing games I have... so for instance I can set it so it will not register me touching the brack pedal until I go past 10 %, then it will travel 100% until 95% where it tops out... so I can still push it all the way down, but I don't have to go all the way. ( I might not be explaining this the right way. ) Or possibly talk to MS to allow for some kind of calibration settings via dashboard?

Either way, I can live with a deadzone a lot better then trying to fly with the controller sticks being opposite of how I would want them to be.

Great job either way in bringing a flight sim to the console!!!!

[fuzzychickens]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

There is NO programmed deadzone in the game.
In fact, it is strictly prohibited by Microsoft TCRs (rules for submission all games).
However, Xbox360 ITSELF has deadzones for all controllers - internal.
Nothing here is in our power (or anyone's, except MS).

P.S. That's not a case on PS3.

Good ol MS controlling the game experince whether it makes sense or not.
Both sony and MS screw gamers in FPS games too, not allowing people who HATE gamepads to use a mouse/keyboard.

At some point they just need to drop the stupid licensing/restriction crap with regards to controllers and make it "anything goes" like with PCs.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by fuzzychickens

Good ol MS controlling the game experince whether it makes sense or not.
Both sony and MS screw gamers in FPS games too, not allowing people who HATE gamepads to use a mouse/keyboard.

At some point they just need to drop the stupid licensing/restriction crap with regards to controllers and make it "anything goes" like with PCs.

the problem is pcs r made by 1 company and software from another however consoles everything is made by same company so they have more power they r intrested in MONEY AND POWER ONLY

[l88bastard]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

There is NO programmed deadzone in the game.
In fact, it is strictly prohibited by Microsoft TCRs (rules for submission all games).
However, Xbox360 ITSELF has deadzones for all controllers - internal.
Nothing here is in our power (or anyone's, except MS).

P.S. That's not a case on PS3.

So, what can be done, will Microsoft fix this or should I just sell my ace edge now?

Are you saying there is NO DEADZONE on the PS3 version? If thats the case I will get the PS3 version instead of the xbox version, please elaborate more on PS3 version deadzone, thanks!