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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:22 AM
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in my opinion, the only thing that seperates this from the highly arcade "Blazing Angels 2" is no floating 'powerups' in the sky.
Goody - I can't wait to have another crack at that secret giant Nazi Zeppelin thats based in Cairo and has several squadrons of 190's inside of it!!
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:29 AM
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Goody - I can't wait to have another crack at that secret giant Nazi Zeppelin thats based in Cairo and has several squadrons of 190's inside of it!!
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or the secret Hitler Rocket Stuka Boss Plane-If you look really hard you'll see his little chaplin moustache and in the cockpit is a little photo of Eva ironing his Lederhosen beside a nodding churchill..."smoke me ze kipper. I'll be back unt time for KnokWurzt!"
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:39 AM
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Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?
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Old 09-06-2009, 07:56 AM
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Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?
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people today- you give em gold and they moan its just shiny yellow...

if people honestly want to compare bop to blazing angels then they obviously are frustrated at the lack of a decent groinal attachment for their PC...
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:18 AM
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Blazing Angles!? Not even close.

Before you say that, how about you try every mission on Sim with one, or even two attempts.

Or, is all the hate because the game is easier without a flightstick? Can't learn to use a controller?
I bolded what I am replying to here....

Its not hate at all... the game is not easier with or without a flightstick... its the fact that not everyone likes the set controller settings programmed into the game... That includes the horrible deadzones that are programmed into the game that are proven to be due to the game and not the flightstick...

give me an ability to swap control sticks and then we can talk about using a controller.
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:52 AM
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I bolded what I am replying to here....

Its not hate at all... the game is not easier with or without a flightstick... its the fact that not everyone likes the set controller settings programmed into the game... That includes the horrible deadzones that are programmed into the game that are proven to be due to the game and not the flightstick...

give me an ability to swap control sticks and then we can talk about using a controller.
As long as you don't touch the sensitivity levels there is really no dead zone with a controller.

If there is no option to swap sticks in the first update, I do think it would be a mistake.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:09 AM
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As long as you don't touch the sensitivity levels there is really no dead zone with a controller.

If there is no option to swap sticks in the first update, I do think it would be a mistake.
thats the issue.... no deadzone with the controller... but there is a programmed deadzone with the flightsticks... I am saying this from just reading on this site.. but people have said that their ace edge or av8tor have deadzones, yet if they plug it into a pc and run the calibration there is no deadzone, and you can clearly see precise movements.

I would much rather have to contend with a deadzone then having to re-teach my brain which hand should control aiming..... id say its southpaw, but thats false because in reality BOP is southpaw style compared to halo 3 controls... in halo 3 or any other FPS you aim with the right stick... yet in this game you aim with the left stick...

this just doesn't work right for me at all. its a chore to even fly in arcade mode with the controller settings... but thats why I bought an ace edge. Id rather contend with a deadzone until a patch then fly "backwards" for my brain.
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Old 09-06-2009, 12:29 PM
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thats the issue.... no deadzone with the controller... but there is a programmed deadzone with the flightsticks... I am saying this from just reading on this site.. but people have said that their ace edge or av8tor have deadzones,
There is NO programmed deadzone in the game.
In fact, it is strictly prohibited by Microsoft TCRs (rules for submission all games).
However, Xbox360 ITSELF has deadzones for all controllers - internal.
Nothing here is in our power (or anyone's, except MS).

P.S. That's not a case on PS3.
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:04 AM
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its the fact that not everyone likes the set controller settings programmed into the game....
Yep. It's not just BOP mind. Personally, this has been a thorn in my side for some time and I find it amazing... in this day & age of videogaming, that user mappable button configs aren't standard in every console game period.

It really seems like a no brainer but then again, I'm no programmer.
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:37 AM
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I didn't read the entire thread, so maybe this has been posted before, but...

BoP is on a console!!! Hello? Don't you understand that at all?

I have over half of the keys on the keyboard mapped to different controls in IL-2: 1946... Console controllers have what... Like, 10 buttons and 2 triggers?
They probably could have gone a lot farther with this game but it's on consoles, there is only so much you can do.

Unless of course you could always add more controls so the A+B is to turn the engine on or off, up and down on the joystick while holding A is to increase/decrease prop pitch, etc but then it just gets confusing and ridiculous.

Some things definitely could have been improved upon, or changed altogether. But for the most part, there is a limit to what you can do on a console.
If you don't like it, stick with 1946. Just don't compare BoP to a PC flight sim, compare it to a console flight sim.

(by the way, you could consider Blazing Angels, etc. as flight sims, because they simulate flight, but they do so very badly)
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