IL2 Birds of Prey: Hints, Tips, and FAQ's Thread

[thundermuffin]

Originally Posted by SleepTrgt

After playing the demo alot, the only thing im not really good at is shaking my enemy's any tips for this?

See, you forget that war requires team work. When trying to pull a yo-yo, make sure to try and lead him towards your wingman, and then he will pull off. Also, try rolls to avoid fire, but remember that the computer isn't very aggressive, so be more aware in MP, because I won't be so quick to follow a transparent move to shake me off . But look up some ACM (Air Combat Maneuvering) and that will give you some understanding of defensive posturing.

EDIT: I'm not liking how I worded all of this; I come off as pompous, and I wasn't trying to be that way, so please don't get upset .

[SleepTrgt]

Originally Posted by thundermuffin

See, you forget that war requires team work. When trying to pull a yo-yo, make sure to try and lead him towards your wingman, and then he will pull off. Also, try rolls to avoid fire, but remember that the computer isn't very aggressive, so be more aware in MP, because I won't be so quick to follow a transparent move to shake me off . But look up some ACM (Air Combat Maneuvering) and that will give you some understanding of defensive posturing.

EDIT: I'm not liking how I worded all of this; I come off as pompous, and I wasn't trying to be that way, so please don't get upset .

haha no problem, not upset at all. I did some reading but feels different when flying.

I Wonder how MP is gonna be if there is still a voice telling you to break and such. A skilled player will also hold his fire until hes in range!

Im just personally trying to Own the skies just by myself, then when I'm online i can do the team work. But if my team fails i can get the job done myself.

[thundermuffin]

Originally Posted by SleepTrgt

haha no problem, not upset at all. I did some reading but feels different when flying.

I Wonder how MP is gonna be if there is still a voice telling you to break and such. A skilled player will also hold his fire until hes in range!

Im just personally trying to Own the skies just by myself, then when I'm online i can do the team work. But if my team fails i can get the job done myself.

So right! Looking up things like a 'Pitchback' makes no sense even with pictures when it finally comes down to doing it in combat.

I found this to be a good site:
http://www.352ndfightergroup.com/vir.../maneuver.html
but it helps to have pictures so:
http://www.tpub.com/content/aviation...P-12220029.htm
That is a military text book (I think) and is HUGE... do some reading in that and you will have a really good leg up on the competition in terms of strategy... although if you can't hit a target it won't help you much !!!

[SleepTrgt]

Thanks ill read them,
And no worries i'm a decent shot

[brainDamage]

Do you guys throttle down at all when you hit the apex of an Immelmann?

[Duguall]

First post, whoo. Next step, the post!

Heres a really frequently asked question as I browsed the forum last night, along the lines of:
"My engine keeps failing after 15-40 minutes of dogfighting"

And a very probable answer that I thought of when I was flying the Dover mission just earlier, so I'll use the spitfire as the example,

If you look to the right side of the dashboard theres 3-4 gauges, above the Oil gauge theres a Boost gauge labeled 1-10 with 8-10 labeled red. If you raise your speed between 80% and 100% you go in the red, causing your engine to overheat. So even though you aren't using WEP your engines are still overheating for being so high constantly! I remembered this after thinking about IL-2 1946 where if you stay at 100% long enough you get an overheat warning.

[SleepTrgt]

Yea i thought so, but then i started flying around for over 40 minutes on 98% nothing happend.
Only after using WEP for over 5 mins it died.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by Duguall

First post, whoo. Next step, the post!

Heres a really frequently asked question as I browsed the forum last night, along the lines of:
"My engine keeps failing after 15-40 minutes of dogfighting"

And a very probable answer that I thought of when I was flying the Dover mission just earlier, so I'll use the spitfire as the example,

If you look to the right side of the dashboard theres 3-4 gauges, above the Oil gauge theres a Boost gauge labeled 1-10 with 8-10 labeled red. If you raise your speed between 80% and 100% you go in the red, causing your engine to overheat. So even though you aren't using WEP your engines are still overheating for being so high constantly! I remembered this after thinking about IL-2 1946 where if you stay at 100% long enough you get an overheat warning.

Very good answer indeed. This should come in handy.

I'll be sure to keep my engine at idle when not in combat.

[redtiger02]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Very good answer indeed. This should come in handy.

I'll be sure to keep my engine at idle when not in combat.

I don't recommend that, but the guy has a good point. All I can tell you is from an actual plane. You only go into the red during takeoff or a go around. Even then, as soon as you're 500' AGL you get it out of the red before you blow a cylinder head. I tested it out in the demo extensively tonight to sort out the good info from the bs and it's accurate. But, you can get around it. Just enter a steep dive and the temp goes down pretty quick. Evidently, they didn't program in shock cooling, which is probably hard to program anyway. That's when engine parts cool unevenly. Big question: why don't we have cowl flap controls to help manage the engine heat?

[bboyneko]

Originally Posted by thundermuffin

EDIT: I'm not liking how I worded all of this; I come off as pompous, and I wasn't trying to be that way, so please don't get upset .