Impossible warrior on freedom islands

[DGDobrev]

Originally Posted by Vilk

And you quote no xp difference? I should check it but my current mage seems confirm the "legend" I have huge money problem since the beginning and for example currently use a Horsemen stack of 1 instead of 4, Archer of 2 instead of 15, and since beginning I have problem to fill stack (despite only 3 dead, 3 Archers) because of money (or for horsemen because that bores me to go lure again at the knight camp). And this mage seems levelup faster, well "seems" is the point.

Monetary problems in the beginning are easily alleviated if you scour a few areas for cash that can be easily stolen If you play on impossible, the mage levels up just like everyone else, or so the XP chart says. So you should be the same level - 10-11 when you get to the freedom islands. I just did it at lvl 10, which is the best achievement I have so far. I should have done better though... I got greedy seeing that +1 attack at lvl 2 and didn't take the leadership upgrade, which was a serious mistake as I see now. That paladin would've been even better now. I may try restarting at the starting save I guess...

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Monetary problems in the beginning are easily alleviated if you scour a few areas for cash that can be easily stolen If you play on impossible, the mage levels up just like everyone else, or so the XP chart says. So you should be the same level - 10-11 when you get to the freedom islands. I just did it at lvl 10, which is the best achievement I have so far. I should have done better though... I got greedy seeing that +1 attack at lvl 2 and didn't take the leadership upgrade, which was a serious mistake as I see now. That paladin would've been even better now. I may try restarting at the starting save I guess...

Level 10 is cool I'm not sure I'll do it in my current mage game. I'd be a little bellow level 5.5 before the turtle. But my current game is a terrible error, I tested superficial stuff of first area and select this game because it has Sacrifice, except that this spell is totally useless for a mage and that soon without Hypnotize, or Gift, or perhaps Resurrect. My stack are too low to ensure a good resurrect from inqui. Lol, I had play it and face it to realize it but numbers are obvious.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by Vilk

Level 10 is cool I'm not sure I'll do it in my current mage game. I'd be a little bellow level 5.5 before the turtle. But my current game is a terrible error, I tested superficial stuff of first area and select this game because it has Sacrifice, except that this spell is totally useless for a mage and that soon without Hypnotize, or Gift, or perhaps Resurrect. My stack are too low to ensure a good resurrect from inqui. Lol, I had play it and face it to realize it but numbers are obvious.

why would that be a problem?
u get +500 from killing turtle that should mean 1-2 extra level 4 units

and most likely the banners throughout darion should also make up for a 250+ leadership

and cash problems?

do the quest from the dwarf/fishing tackles/priest/garden infestation

u get free cash and xp(all involves no fighting

[DGDobrev]

I like doing the quests in the old castle (headless skeleton and the chest). It is dodgy, you may have to save/load a bunch of times till you get it right without dying, but the XP reward is the best there. Kicks you a level and something up just like that, maybe even 2 levels.

And since velarion forest has some nice chests and runes you can easily steal, that's my preferred start of the game. Always

[Razorflame]

that depends on class rather than having a good start

for a mage i would just use the last hero strat on turtle at level 2 then steamroll darion

but for pala or warrior your option might be better since warrior or paladin won't have enough mana too substain the turtle with last hero

[DGDobrev]

Exactly my point It is very important from refraining to make serious generalizations, because the three chars have different play styles. I know your strategy is just terrific, but it's applicable with a mage, since you can easily get concentration to a decent level and compensate for the -5 mana per 1-2 turns. The other classes can't do that so easily. I personally get concentration at lvl 6-7, depending on whether I can get that many magic runes available. That's why I like using healing + priests + horsemen to compensate for the lack of mana regen in combat.

[Razorflame]

they can i just tested this

a warrior and paladin have higher leadership at start and thus have more units in their stacks which easily compensates the mana cost

a mage needs like 35/40 mana(WITHOUT concentration) and maybe 1-2 scrolls of last hero but that shouldn't be too hard to find..

however a warrior can do this with 30/35 mana with 1 scroll

keep in mind that a warrior got way more units

and thus would do more damage to a turtle

with my mage i did like 200 damage a turn(rougly based)

around 40~80 from archimage
20~50 inqi
20~50 bowman
50~96 from thorn hunter


but all units were below 10 except for thorn and bowman i think
bowman 14
thorn hunters 102

(i picked up all leaderships flags before going into the turtle island :>

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

for a mage i would just use the last hero strat on turtle at level 2 then steamroll darion

I got money problem in that game only, and that was quite before the turtle ie quite before 7AM day 2. Later and before the turtle I could fill stacks if I want.

Roughly for a mage my current best rough route for the beginning is, before Day 2 6AM ie before taking care of the turtle:

• All Greenwort but 3 stacks close to Rogues dean and stuff on sea.
• Then half part of Verlon and take care to conclude quests started in Greenwort and start all possible quests and finish those possible.
• Then sea part of Greenwort but not always ships but always to get access to Rogues dean from sea and continue the paused quest of zombie.
• Then Arlania except the mage tower, the underground, (often) one hero, the sea stuff including Griffins. Take care start or finish quests here.
• Then the swamp (not the cemetery) to erase fully except if there's a hero too strong so soon.
• Then at 6AM rush to prepare and do the turtle.

Currently my path isn't enough optimized so I always need rush to the turtle before to have finish the swamps.

After the turtle it's still unorganized. Also I don't quote the details but it's a little complicate to organize all walks.

[Razorflame]

why do you fight battles before battling turtle?

that is a riddle for me
i just clean sweep the area's and do the quest to get rage box(then turtle)

so after the battle with turtle i get enough leadership to steamroll all
and use my ragebox on every battle with maximised efficiency
:>
money is never a problem ^^
i hardly lose troops
last hero can work wonders ^^

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

...I just did it at lvl 10, which is the best achievement I have so far.

I just achieved level 9.5 (in fact a bit less) and has 3 hours before do any of the rude fights ie magic test, mage tower gremlins, some item gremlins, the whole abandoned castle, one level 12 hero, the undead castle, perhaps one undead hero. I also gave up killing neutral Griffins that's too nasty!

I also didn't get any xp bonus. But the bad point is that my mage has only that sucking Sacrifice spell and I feel stuck. I also had only 6 Horsemen so had switch to something else. Next time I'll select a game with Gift spell, it's much more useful at this point of the game. And I give up try selecting a game with both Gift and Sacrifice during first parts of the game, it's too rare from a superficial check.

My path is still a bit stupid at some points so I lost some time. Also the switch from Horsemen to something else has been quite a garbage and was certainly a significant lost of time. I also get some money problem but quick children help a lot.