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Old 04-02-2018, 09:05 PM
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I think that's more design choices by Antonov and his disciples, as well as the tendency for 1930's aircraft designers to create aircraft which look like railroad cars. IMO, the Yak-1 -3, -7, -9, series (first designed 1939, flew 1940) are some of the most graceful-looking aircraft of the period.

Anyhow, I'm just happy for more content, especially because it will feature some of the war's forgotten, unglamorous "ugly ducklings".
Well, Antonov designed just gliders in 1930s and assisted Yakovlev a bit. By the way, it was him who worked on improvements of Yak series in 1943-1945.
He was also known for somewhat controversial remarks about aircraft "beauty". In one of his book he wrote that beautiful airplane flies better. Yet in one of the interviews asked about alleged "ugliness" of one of his transport planes, he responded: "Functional is beautiful".

But back to the topic.
Yes, kudos to TD for making this bird available for flight and sea navigation (what a boat!).
More ugly ducklings the better.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:10 PM
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this bird available for flight and sea navigation (what a boat!).
in late version of MBR will be RPK2 ... i mean if set on map 42 ( or more late year) on pilot panel you will have radio navigation gauge ...
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Old 04-03-2018, 04:16 AM
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When an airplane is used to be taken through a road, it is necessary to have certain caution with the different unevenness of the ground. In most cases, if the plane is tail dragger, and it meets a slope of the ground, it hits the ground damaging the propeller. When using a tricycle landing gear airplane, this effect is less damaging to the aircraft. In the case of an amphibious airplane, as is the case of the MBR, is it possible to go from water to dry land without causing a collision between these two surfaces?
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Old 04-03-2018, 07:15 AM
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in fact MBR2 wasn't amphibious airplane at 100 persent meaning of this word ...
MBR was or float ( boat i mean ) version .. or Gear ( wheel/Ski version ..)
for MBR wasn't plan to take off from water surface with attached wheels or ski...

it's not a PBY on which you can up and down gears depends of plase where you want to landing ...

but i think you can make successfull landing MBR to ground on boat .... and with some risk you can try land on water with gear ... but it will be some kind emergency landing ...
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Old 04-03-2018, 08:20 AM
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in fact MBR2 wasn't amphibious airplane at 100 persent meaning of this word ...
MBR was or float ( boat i mean ) version .. or Gear ( wheel/Ski version ..)
for MBR wasn't plan to take off from water surface with attached wheels or ski...

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But they were used with trolleys as well for pulling up the slip (or other slope) or pulling down to the water. I don't attach pictures as I'm sure you have seen them a lot.
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sure... we saw it ... but that trolleys is only ground tech crew equipment ...
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sure... we saw it ... but that trolleys is only ground tech crew equipment ...
So, could it be possible to make those trolleys "appear" only on the ground (as with Me 163), not in the air?
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Well, Antonov designed just gliders in 1930s and assisted Yakovlev a bit. By the way, it was him who worked on improvements of Yak series in 1943-1945.
My mistake, I was thinking of Tupolev. I got confused because so many of his pre-war designs are designated as ANT-## rather than Tu-##.
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My mistake, I was thinking of Tupolev. I got confused because so many of his pre-war designs are designated as ANT-## rather than Tu-##.
No problem. This confuses many even in the Russian speaking community.
ANT, AN, Antey (An-22).
I agree with your comment on Tupolev's designs in general.
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