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Old 11-05-2017, 09:27 PM
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Just tried Bk 3.7 in my firing practices...
Definitely not my weapon of choice against bombers. I'll stick with Mk-108 where possible.
As for the ships - I assume they should be in the smallest categories as torpedo boats. Standard freighter is immune to 37 mm shells - unless I do something wrong.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:47 AM
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In real life a cannon could light fires and do plenty of damage to the superstructure. There is one account I ready of P-39s strafing a freighter which then ran itself aground in response to the resulting fires. However the damage model in Il-2 isn't quite so complex.

I remember there was a bit of an issue where the barges (like many buildings, and the trains) lacked durability - meanwhile the ships were largely invulnerable (despite the fact that some had AA guns that could be destroyed).

I liked ZloyPetruskO's mod - he had it so that the player could suppress anti-aircraft guns for a short period of time by shooting in their area. It worked for land based AAA as well.
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Old 11-14-2017, 09:02 AM
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In real life a cannon could light fires and do plenty of damage to the superstructure. There is one account I ready of P-39s strafing a freighter which then ran itself aground in response to the resulting fires. However the damage model in Il-2 isn't quite so complex.

I remember there was a bit of an issue where the barges (like many buildings, and the trains) lacked durability - meanwhile the ships were largely invulnerable (despite the fact that some had AA guns that could be destroyed).

I liked ZloyPetruskO's mod - he had it so that the player could suppress anti-aircraft guns for a short period of time by shooting in their area. It worked for land based AAA as well.
Probably I read the same story about that German freighter attacked by group of P-39s in Baltic Sea. The hull of the vessel was damaged - not critical yet the captain ran her aground for safety.
There should be fire and light damage caused by 37 mm shells definitely. As for the sinking, it would depend on vessel size and number of hits. I don't think that one aircraft with 37 mm cannon could sink the vessel with GRT of 1000 t or larger until there is explosion or serious fire (combustible cargo, for example).
Suppressing AAA - was not this effect introduced to stock game in one the last versions? Or I'm mixing it with mods...
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Old 11-20-2017, 02:02 PM
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Suppressing AAA - was not this effect introduced to stock game in one the last versions? Or I'm mixing it with mods...
Nope! You are mixing it. Very nice MOD BTW.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:09 PM
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Nope! You are mixing it. Very nice MOD BTW.
I see. My imagination plays tricks with me.
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Old 11-20-2017, 11:04 PM
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Flak suppression works in HSFX and Stock game.

Fire a few rounds near a AAA they (virtually) run away till attack is over then start firing again if the AAA isn't destroyed.

Not All AAA does this though iirc.
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Old 11-21-2017, 01:03 AM
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Flak suppression works in HSFX and Stock game.

Fire a few rounds near a AAA they (virtually) run away till attack is over then start firing again if the AAA isn't destroyed.

Not All AAA does this though iirc.
Didn't know that.

The MOD showed soldiers running away from the AAA, same effect as attacking convoys.
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