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Old 09-08-2016, 10:07 AM
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I don't get it. We will get a new and important map for free and all this complaining about how that's a bad thing?

This map covers a land area that saw nearly constant action from 40 to 45, and that alone makes it needed.
It can be used for early war, German offense vs. Allied defense, potentially with a fictional invasion. That's a lot of fighter/attack/bomber mission options there.

Second option is to employ it for any kind of smaller skirmishes - in between the big battles, perfect for Il-2, and it does give the option for German harassment missions on RAF installations for the first time (There are your "new" missions). Allied can do the same, and not having to play on the limited Normandy map is an advantage.

Third, of course, is Invasion of Normandy, and now we have the opportunity to go hunting further off the invasion area, destroy supplies/infrastructure. German options also change, now a big area is to be patroled, and not just a few square kilometers of invasion area.

Okay, it is not the perfect map for strategic bombing/ship hunting or whatever, but it still is a great, important map, and it is big enough to allow strategic bomber operations on a limited scale(and after all IL2 is a tactical game!), and it does have water so anti shipping is possible.

So as far as I'm concerned, I'm excited to play on this map.
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:30 PM
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I don't get it. We will get a new and important map for free and all this complaining about how that's a bad thing?

This map covers a land area that saw nearly constant action from 40 to 45, and that alone makes it needed.
It can be used for early war, German offense vs. Allied defense, potentially with a fictional invasion. That's a lot of fighter/attack/bomber mission options there.

Second option is to employ it for any kind of smaller skirmishes - in between the big battles, perfect for Il-2, and it does give the option for German harassment missions on RAF installations for the first time (There are your "new" missions). Allied can do the same, and not having to play on the limited Normandy map is an advantage.

Third, of course, is Invasion of Normandy, and now we have the opportunity to go hunting further off the invasion area, destroy supplies/infrastructure. German options also change, now a big area is to be patroled, and not just a few square kilometers of invasion area.

Okay, it is not the perfect map for strategic bombing/ship hunting or whatever, but it still is a great, important map, and it is big enough to allow strategic bomber operations on a limited scale(and after all IL2 is a tactical game!), and it does have water so anti shipping is possible.

So as far as I'm concerned, I'm excited to play on this map.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:28 PM
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Yep.. great map for people with stock games. These people screaming for long range strategic bombing.. just get the mods and especially this map:

http://gillesbabin.perso.neuf.fr/tru...ont39-45uk.htm

Or if you want to take off from a base in England, & fly right to Berlin and back:

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...c,42939.0.html

You know.. if you don't want to 'hurry up and wait'.
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Old 09-09-2016, 01:06 AM
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Okay, it is not the perfect map for strategic bombing/ship hunting or whatever, but it still is a great, important map, and it is big enough to allow strategic bomber operations on a limited scale(and after all IL2 is a tactical game!), and it does have water so anti shipping is possible.
Actually, it's still useful for strategic bombing, since there were plenty of mid-war raids for locations along the coasts. In 1943, US bombers gained experience by bombing targets in France, with the strategic goal of gaining air superiority in Western Europe.

In early 1944, there were massive air raids against transportation infrastructure to help isolate the French coast prior to invasion. After the breakout, there were many operations designed to destroy V-1 launching sites and German troop concentrations.

For anti-shipping operations, the English Channel was a scene of constant low-level harassing raids by the RAF, which first targeted German invasion barges, and later E-boats and coastal shipping. So, while it didn't get the press that the Bay of Biscay did, it was a big deal.

Finally, there's the "Channel Dash" and support for the Dieppe raid in 1942, which were major campaigns. Given IL2's plane set, actions set from 1942 to early 1944 perfectly utilize the existing RAF plane set.
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Old 09-09-2016, 07:34 AM
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And the best thing in this new map, is that the amazing He-111 variants recently introduced fit very well!

Keep up the good work, TD!
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:36 AM
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may be that thing will be usefull for that map too

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Old 09-10-2016, 02:52 AM
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nice!

can this be removed!?

I hate wasting my time waiting to comment on other threads!

"This forum requires that you wait 120 seconds between posts. Please try again in 77 seconds."

120 seconds to post wtf? over?
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Old 09-10-2016, 04:40 PM
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Old 09-10-2016, 06:53 PM
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is paris on this map?
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Old 10-06-2016, 07:03 AM
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I don't get it. We will get a new and important map for free and all this complaining about how that's a bad thing?

This map covers a land area that saw nearly constant action from 40 to 45, and that alone makes it needed.
It can be used for early war, German offense vs. Allied defense, potentially with a fictional invasion. That's a lot of fighter/attack/bomber mission options there.

Second option is to employ it for any kind of smaller skirmishes - in between the big battles, perfect for Il-2, and it does give the option for German harassment missions on RAF installations for the first time (There are your "new" missions). Allied can do the same, and not having to play on the limited Normandy map is an advantage.

Third, of course, is Invasion of Normandy, and now we have the opportunity to go hunting further off the invasion area, destroy supplies/infrastructure. German options also change, now a big area is to be patroled, and not just a few square kilometers of invasion area.

Okay, it is not the perfect map for strategic bombing/ship hunting or whatever, but it still is a great, important map, and it is big enough to allow strategic bomber operations on a limited scale(and after all IL2 is a tactical game!), and it does have water so anti shipping is possible.

So as far as I'm concerned, I'm excited to play on this map.
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