New planes requests (from other threads/please pin it)

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by sniperton

Hungary had one of the weakest and smallest air forces among minor nations.

Rivaled only by Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, which aren't even in the game!

Good write-up of what it would take to get a complete Hungarian order of battle.

Currently, we have the Bf-109, Bf-110, CR-42, FW-189, FW-190, He-111, Me-210, and Re.2000. That's a good selection of aircraft for a minor air force, but there's nothing there that you can't get by flying for the Luftwaffe or Regia Aeronautica. It would be fun and interesting if there was at least one "rare bird" which was unique to the Hungarian Air Force.

While it's utterly ridiculous to include it in the game, I've always had a soft spot for the WM.23 Ezust Nyil. Logically, it would make more sense to add the WM.21 Solyom or the Me-210C.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Good write-up of what it would take to get a complete Hungarian order of battle.

For me it doesn't seem reasonable to have such a complete OOB. One obsolate plane is not much different than the other, and only those are worth the effort which were used in quantities by other nations as well (e.g. Cr-32, also used by Italy in the ground attack role). Having a WM-21 doesn't make much sense for me, all the more so as Hungarian aircrew preferred the He-46 to it. Obsolate bombers are more reasonable to have (as AI-only planes), for they remained in service for long as transports.

[iMattheush]

What do you think about jets like Gloster Meteor or even Republic XP-84 prototype? Is it possible to add some 1946-era planes? Meteor is even from '44 (f.3) or '45 (f.4)... Meteor can be used in intercepting v-1/ar-234 missions

[gaunt1]

No way, especially prototypes. Maybe after planes like Typhoon, Spit XIV, Tu-2, Ju-88C6, Me-410, or Ki-44 are added. These are far more important.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

No way, especially prototypes. Maybe after planes like Typhoon, Spit XIV, Tu-2, Ju-88C6, Me-410, or Ki-44 are added. These are far more important.

I think that "Luftwaffe 1946" is lowest priority, but the Gloster Meteor Mk. I was operational during WW2 and did useful work shooting down V-1s.

I'd still put it further back in the queue compared to many other planes, however.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

I think that "Luftwaffe 1946" is lowest priority, but the Gloster Meteor Mk. I was operational during WW2 and did useful work shooting down V-1s.

I'd still put it further back in the queue compared to many other planes, however.

Argentinian's may like to have it as a 1946, because it saw a little action overe there on some political turmoils.

[iMattheush]

Meteor Mk.3 was used more extensively (v-1s AND combat flies over Germany in the last months of war) than Mk.1 (V-1), and look at the numbers. Since 8 may of 1945, there was only 20 Mk.1s and over 100 Mk.3s

[Marabekm]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Rivaled only by Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, which aren't even in the game!

Yugoslavia is kind of in game. Not as a selectable country, but we do have some of the aircraft.
You have to substitute the BF-109E4 for the 109E3, (And download Yugoslav skins somewhere for it.
Also the IK-3 was added in 4.12 something. (It has the Yugoslav skin already)
And the Sm-79 also saw service with the Yugoslav air force( but this could have been the 2 engine version like Romania used, I am not sure.)

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

Yugoslavia is kind of in game. Not as a selectable country, but we do have some of the aircraft.

The IK-3 is one of my favorite "rare birds" in the game.

Bf-109E-3 could easily be added to the game along with the E-1.

I can understand the decision to not include some of the "minor nations" in IL2, though. Mostly its because we don't have suitable maps and voice packs.
To some extent, it's because there doesn't appear to be that much of a fan base for IL2 in certain countries.