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[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

When ever are you not ticked off and aggravated?

about 7 am after i've had coffee. lol

[KOM.Nausicaa]

The simple truth is that modding and online are two animals that hate each other. It has never worked out well, in no game. IL2 was heavily designed for the online experience-maybe a bit too much, but after all, that was Oleg's choice. IL2 is somehow the worst sim you can decide to mod. You are killing it with the modding, and everyone that says otherwise is an idiot or a liar. About Mods in general, personally, I am really between two chairs...there have been great, even amazing mods for games-look at OFF for CFS3. It's a mega-mod and it's better, far better, than the game itself. Or SH3 and SH4...there are some very nice things done there, like Trigger Maru or GWX. The thing is that modding is anarchism-because there is no quality control, no final approval by some higher instance. Modding is letting everyone write on paper and hope for a book of fine litterature. Sometimes it works out, most is of very poor quality--or/and it breaks the same amount of stuff it tends to repair. What I think is nice though are the new textures for maps and cockpits and such. They hurt nobody and some are really nice. I think Oleg should have allowed such a thing from the start. Even whole map making. But I loath those so called "new planes." Incredible such garbage actually gets applause over at AAA.

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

The simple truth is that modding and online are two animals that hate each other. It has never worked out well, in no game. IL2 was heavily designed for the online experience-maybe a bit too much, but after all, that was Oleg's choice. IL2 is somehow the worst sim you can decide to mod. You are killing it with the modding, and everyone that says otherwise is an idiot or a liar. About Mods in general, personally, I am really between two chairs...there have been great, even amazing mods for games-look at OFF for CFS3. It's a mega-mod and it's better, far better, than the game itself. Or SH3 and SH4...there are some very nice things done there, like Trigger Maru or GWX. The thing is that modding is anarchism-because there is no quality control, no final approval by some higher instance. Modding is letting everyone write on paper and hope for a book of fine litterature. Sometimes it works out, most is of very poor quality--or/and it breaks the same amount of stuff it tends to repair. What I think is nice though are the new textures for maps and cockpits and such. They hurt nobody and some are really nice. I think Oleg should have allowed such a thing from the start. Even whole map making. But I loath those so called "new planes." Incredible such garbage actually gets applause over at AAA.

+1
I agree textures and maps and things of that nature or fine...even FMB/QMB mods are ok IMO. While i'd prefer the go through Oleg for approval...i could live with it if it were just those. but it's not.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by KOM.Nausicaa

The simple truth is that modding and online are two animals that hate each other. It has never worked out well, in no game. IL2 was heavily designed for the online experience-maybe a bit too much, but after all, that was Oleg's choice. IL2 is somehow the worst sim you can decide to mod. You are killing it with the modding, and everyone that says otherwise is an idiot or a liar. About Mods in general, personally, I am really between two chairs...there have been great, even amazing mods for games-look at OFF for CFS3. It's a mega-mod and it's better, far better, than the game itself. Or SH3 and SH4...there are some very nice things done there, like Trigger Maru or GWX. The thing is that modding is anarchism-because there is no quality control, no final approval by some higher instance. Modding is letting everyone write on paper and hope for a book of fine litterature. Sometimes it works out, most is of very poor quality--or/and it breaks the same amount of stuff it tends to repair. What I think is nice though are the new textures for maps and cockpits and such. They hurt nobody and some are really nice. I think Oleg should have allowed such a thing from the start. Even whole map making. But I loath those so called "new planes." Incredible such garbage actually gets applause over at AAA.

+1


Especially the last sentance.

[ElAurens]

Copperhead, you are way off base here sir.

I fly with and without mods and absolutely see no more shenanigans online then before this whole mod thing started.

There were always "cheats" in the sim, speedhacks and what not, but the numbers using them were small, and remain so. The online arena certainly does not resemble a dark alley full of drug addicts, as you so graphically put it. Why are you going on this way?

The only thing than has changed in the last year or so, at least from my perspective, is that a lot more people are flying smarter. Way more BnZ and far less TnB. This has taken some of the fun out of flying I grant you, but the sim is not a cesspool of 733t ha@x0rz, it just isn't.

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Copperhead, you are way off base here sir.

I fly with and without mods and absolutely see no more shenanigans online then before this whole mod thing started.

There were always "cheats" in the sim, speedhacks and what not, but the numbers using them were small, and remain so. The online arena certainly does not resemble a dark alley full of drug addicts, as you so graphically put it. Why are you going on this way?

The only thing than has changed in the last year or so, at least from my perspective, is that a lot more people are flying smarter. Way more BnZ and far less TnB. This has taken some of the fun out of flying I grant you, but the sim is not a cesspool of 733t ha@x0rz, it just isn't.

El i wasn trying to make an examle. Maybe a little harsh. didn't mean for it to come across that bad but it did. The example being that everyone and thier brother are now using that stuff. Most of whom were against it months ago.
not emplying that every single damn mod user is a cheater. BC's right i need to back off of that. but it's the compleate distrust in the community.....
never mind.

[kristorf]

'Bout time to lock these ones isn't it??

Returned to the slagging we had over on the Zoo a couple of years ago, really moved forward.....not.