Beating the game with no losses (Paladin)

[Gatts]

Originally Posted by Hento

It is not possible to have no losses because of initial dragon quest.

You are right - but that is not reason enough not to have 0-loses

Guys who finished the game on impossible all said that they either captured the doll avoiding the dragon fight - or as Yenko said - went out without the training... (what is not advised as in the training you can get some exp, money ...not much but on impossible everyting counts)

[Keneth]

Yup, there's no need to fight the dragon but it is true that you can't fight the dragon and have 0 losses.

[Gatts]

Sadly it is really impossible to beat the dragon wo loses, and here is why I believe why:

Difficulty: Impossible
Race: Paladin
You may have HEALING spell - but it heals 55 HP only
Ressurection can't be placed in spellbok, but you can't use the scroll anyway - as it does not work on knight / horseman
You can't really buff your hero - as you have only 2/4/2 runes (might/mind/magic)
even if you play "hit me first" strategy -> you could with max luck win wo loses, but you would lose ressurection scroll -> so all ohter battles would not work for ya

"hit me first strategy" -> keep only one weak stack -> i.e. 5 peasants - dragon will wait if your army is far away enough - move only peasant one step forward and dragon will use his "drag and hit" skill on peasant -> try to finish the dragon using heal spell and horsemen and knights (still it is only question of luck luck luck each hit and there is huge probability that either horseman or knight will die, but reload can do it) - befor you land last hit, you don't need heal - use only ressurection on peasants...

but even with many many reloads - you will lose the scroll... so where is the win?

[taltamir]

Originally Posted by Gatts

Sadly it is really impossible to beat the dragon wo loses, and here is why I believe why:

Difficulty: Impossible
Race: Paladin
You may have HEALING spell - but it heals 55 HP only
Ressurection can't be placed in spellbok, but you can't use the scroll anyway - as it does not work on knight / horseman
You can't really buff your hero - as you have only 2/4/2 runes (might/mind/magic)
even if you play "hit me first" strategy -> you could with max luck win wo loses, but you would lose ressurection scroll -> so all ohter battles would not work for ya

"hit me first strategy" -> keep only one weak stack -> i.e. 5 peasants - dragon will wait if your army is far away enough - move only peasant one step forward and dragon will use his "drag and hit" skill on peasant -> try to finish the dragon using heal spell and horsemen and knights (still it is only question of luck luck luck each hit and there is huge probability that either horseman or knight will die, but reload can do it) - befor you land last hit, you don't need heal - use only ressurection on peasants...

but even with many many reloads - you will lose the scroll... so where is the win?

maybe with extreme luck and some reloads you would find one available for sale early on, early enough for you to fight and kill and earn the needed money to buy it. But that would be a truly insane challenge just to kill the dragon.
Question then, this is about finishing the game, not killing all enemy stacks.
So, tell me sector24. did you kill all roaming stacks and finish / fail all quests? or did you choose not to do some of them?

[sector24]

I killed every stack possible except the Green Dragon in the starting area, and a couple stacks of Giants in the Underground Sea that I accidentally set to neutral when I made peace with the Dwarves.

I did all the quests I could find, I think the screenshot I posted said I completed 101. I definitely didn't go back to the Freedom Islands to recapture the embassy, so if that's a quest then I missed it.

[Gatts]

Originally Posted by sector24

I killed every stack possible except the Green Dragon in the starting area, and a couple stacks of Giants in the Underground Sea that I accidentally set to neutral when I made peace with the Dwarves.

I did all the quests I could find, I think the screenshot I posted said I completed 101. I definitely didn't go back to the Freedom Islands to recapture the embassy, so if that's a quest then I missed it.

Don't worry about the underground sea area - these dwarven units would not attack you anyway... I tested it in all versions (oldest 16b7) and they never attacked me (test was based on going directly in the undeground sea w/o any quest in dwarven lands)

[YENKO]

Same here: I went to the under.sea way way before signing the peace with the Dwarven King, and the giants were 'neutral' to me.
At one time, I went back to the Orc Embassy and recaptured it. The only benefit was that now I can recruit goblins, shamans, catapults AND Orc Veterans....
Funny thing was that i went to the Embassy because i needed to recap my stack of Shamans, I had no idea of the forthcoming battle. Now, that was one helluva nasty surprise! Bravo, Katauri!

[worm_wood]

The only reason I signed up for this board is to give props for a great thread.

Thanks for the posts sector24

Cheers,

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by sector24

I did all the quests I could find, I think the screenshot I posted said I completed 101. I definitely didn't go back to the Freedom Islands to recapture the embassy, so if that's a quest then I missed it.

Is there a list of quests somewhere? I have also a "problem" of a missing quest and that's not the embassy.

Well I suppose I could reload and browse to have the answer of quest not done the few time I finished the game but that's tedious. My bet is I just forget do one because of reload and believing to have done something not anymore done because of a reload.

[Razorflame]

check out gamebanshee on the walktrough and see if u have missed a quest
easiest way ^^