Don't make performances secret this time

[Al Schlageter]

Be sure there will be one who whines the Spitfire is too good and the 109 is porked.

[HFC_Dolphin]

That's a fair request and I agree 100%.

[Igo kyu]

I agree I think.

The most odd thing I've encountered is myself in a Wildcat being caught in a dive by a Zero. The point about the Zero was that it was light, which meant it could climb, turn, all of that, but diving was not its strong point. I've a suspicion that the AI in il2 was designed for energy fighting, which meant that the Zero had to be turned into an energy fighter, whereas in real life it was a superb turn fighter. I find the Wildcat much too prone to stalls, and thus less fun than it might be.

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

I agree I think.

The most odd thing I've encountered is myself in a Wildcat being caught in a dive by a Zero. The point about the Zero was that it was light, which meant it could climb, turn, all of that, but diving was not its strong point. I've a suspicion that the AI in il2 was designed for energy fighting, which meant that the Zero had to be turned into an energy fighter, whereas in real life it was a superb turn fighter. I find the Wildcat much too prone to stalls, and thus less fun than it might be.

This is an excellent example of the many variables, not only in real life , but in the game as well. The M3 zero (by virtue of it's "clipped" wings) is an excellent diver, fully capable of keeping up with a wildcat (if not catching up). The problem comes in with control authority and structural integrity, after 350 mph the Zero has niether. The wildcat is a brick with wings, I don't really think you can overspeed it and it fill fly out of a 400mph dive like buttah. Your friend behind you in the Zero, on the other hand (assuming he hasn't already ripped his wings off), will fly straight into the drink without so much as a twitch to indicate his frantic yanking on the stick. On the other hand, if you bring the fight down to 200mph the Zero will be doing the Mohammed Ali thing and the Wildcat will look more like a brick than ever. And it's not even as simple as that.

I might be convinced that some of the aircraft aren't perfect, but I think they compare well with each other (The known limitations of the game engine granted). I believe SOW can only improve on that. As for the "Oleg likes this or that plane better" conspiracies, I most certainly believe that to be utter and complete hogwash.

[KG26_Alpha]

lol

Keep data way from the public

Olegs had years of

Russian forums...All our planes are porked
German forums...All our planes are porked
English forums...All our planes are porked
America forums...All our planes are porked
Italian forums...All our planes are porked

Tell ya what why don't Oleg make a sim for each country with the flight models you think you should have, you can shoot 25 planes down a sortie with ammo and fuel to spare with tank like armour............oh hang on isn't that already avaliable in IL2 1946 ?.........unlimited ammo....vulnerability....flutter......just flick some switches till you "feel" your favourite aircraft fits the nationalistic propaganda {insert your country} has been force feeding you in the past.

The "fair play brush" was painted all over IL2 to "balance" the game for mostly online reasons {see above}.

Keep whining and you could get more than you bargained for, and not in a good sense either.

Look what happened to my He111 its ground handling is "porked"

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

lol

Keep data way from the public

Cannot disagree more.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by PE_Tihi

Cannot disagree more.

Then dont

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by BadAim

I might be convinced that some of the aircraft aren't perfect, but I think they compare well with each other (The known limitations of the game engine granted). I believe SOW can only improve on that. As for the "Oleg likes this or that plane better" conspiracies, I most certainly believe that to be utter and complete hogwash.

Conspiracies are not my area. This 'compare well with each other' thing ..well- please read the other posts.

[_RAAF_Stupot]

Originally Posted by BadAim

This is an excellent example of the many variables, not only in real life , but in the game as well. The M3 zero (by virtue of it's "clipped" wings) is an excellent diver, fully capable of keeping up with a wildcat (if not catching up). The problem comes in with control authority and structural integrity, after 350 mph the Zero has niether. The wildcat is a brick with wings, I don't really think you can overspeed it and it fill fly out of a 400mph dive like buttah. Your friend behind you in the Zero, on the other hand (assuming he hasn't already ripped his wings off), will fly straight into the drink without so much as a twitch to indicate his frantic yanking on the stick. On the other hand, if you bring the fight down to 200mph the Zero will be doing the Mohammed Ali thing and the Wildcat will look more like a brick than ever. And it's not even as simple as that.

I might be convinced that some of the aircraft aren't perfect, but I think they compare well with each other (The known limitations of the game engine granted). I believe SOW can only improve on that. As for the "Oleg likes this or that plane better" conspiracies, I most certainly believe that to be utter and complete hogwash.

+1 to that!

[PE_Tihi]

Originally Posted by _RAAF_Stupot

Originally Posted by BadAim
This is an excellent example of the many variables, not only in real life , but in the game as well. The M3 zero (by virtue of it's "clipped" wings) is an excellent diver, fully capable of keeping up with a wildcat (if not catching up). The problem comes in with control authority and structural integrity, after 350 mph the Zero has niether. The wildcat is a brick with wings, I don't really think you can overspeed it and it fill fly out of a 400mph dive like buttah. Your friend behind you in the Zero, on the other hand (assuming he hasn't already ripped his wings off), will fly straight into the drink without so much as a twitch to indicate his frantic yanking on the stick. On the other hand, if you bring the fight down to 200mph the Zero will be doing the Mohammed Ali thing and the Wildcat will look more like a brick than ever. And it's not even as simple as that.

I might be convinced that some of the aircraft aren't perfect, but I think they compare well with each other (The known limitations of the game engine granted). I believe SOW can only improve on that. As for the "Oleg likes this or that plane better" conspiracies, I most certainly believe that to be utter and complete hogwash.

+1 to that!

Said it once, and i ll say it again- utter hogwash is that the planes compare well with each other. Such anomalies as I16 being better from 109F and fighting the G2 well are almost a rule in the game, and you have to search for a straightly modelled plane with a candle. Parameters 50 percent off, or more, well no limitations of otherwise excelent game engine caused these.